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Speaker 3 00:00:48 This is episode 294 gun violence in America.
Speaker 1 00:01:17 We're here and, uh, time of grim awareness,
Speaker 1 00:01:26 Another mass shooting or several, but particularly this one is particularly poignant in Valez. I think Texas, where they have a particularly reprehensible governor and a reprehensible Senator. And actually to starting this weekend, there will be an NRA sitting there, both with, uh, uh, Donald Trump and, uh, Ted Cruz, two of the worst malfactors and, um, uh, celebrating guns and guns in spite of a young, uh, demented young man who marched into a school in a primarily, uh, students, he himself is Latino, therefore, fully demented. And nobody knows why there's no note or haven't heard of anything.
Speaker 1 00:02:26 And this is a town where there is a SWAT team where 40% of the budget of the town goes for beefing up to police where they're highly armed. And this kid, uh, Dement, poor, sad, tragic demented kid shot off his gun for 12 minutes outside the school, and then marched into a fortified school that had a special fence around it. And, um, but supposedly, you know, hardened, cuz the reason I'm mentioning those terms is because we are, we are hearing already from the idiots who think that the, who misunderstand the second amendment and uh, think everybody should be armed to the teeth. And they're gonna say if the teachers in the school classrooms had guns, they would've shot the kid down so that would've solved the problem. Everybody should be armed. And this is the NRA message. And this is the NRA is paid by the gun manufacturers to factors to promote this and lobby for this.
Speaker 1 00:03:40 They become a lobbying organization for more guns, more gun sales, more gun spread. And uh, the police refused to go in when the shooter was in and he was in the school for one hour and he killed numbers of students and wounded numbers more, I think 22 wounded, 19 killed, or I forgot, you know, unbelievable. One mother was begging the cops who were a bunch of cops outside while he was inside and they refused to go into, they might got shot <laugh> although they were highly armed themselves, but they didn't know where the kid was, whatever they didn't wanna charge in and get shot. So he shot all the students and the teachers that he could. I mean really. So when the Abbot and the other reprehensible, people there say, you see if everybody had a gun, which was an Archie bunker line, you know that everyone should have a gun and even everybody in the airplane would have one and no one could hijack an airplane because everybody would be armed.
Speaker 1 00:04:56 When you got your boarding pass, they gave you a gun. That was an Archie bunker thing. I mean really. And uh, we really should be more clear about this. First of all, the most important people at the moment are the people who got killed because they are in the Bardo. Uh, this will not be on the news either. Christians will be sort of thinking of them as, as in, I Bardo in the hope, in the hopes that they will be hoping that Jesus will be helping them out and that these innocent children will be going to heaven. So in a way they have them in a Bardo, but they're praying and they're miserable because of their laws of human life, which they have every right to be. And they're also missing them themselves. They love them. And uh, they're the second, most important are the bereaved people.
Speaker 1 00:05:56 And they will, they're try they're they're grief stricken. They're angry at the whole system that enabled this to happen. They're angry with the cops who didn't offer all their armament and so on. They did eventually go and shoot the kid, but they still didn't go right away when they knew it was happening. And they, and although supposedly was a hardened thing was 40%. I, I read in my beloved Heather cut Cox Richardson, subs, stack, uh, blog. I read that 40% of the town's budget had to do with beefing up the police in that town. And we are them more military trained and so on, but they still were not trained or they didn't have enough Bulletproof vest or whatever it was. They wouldn't assault the kid immediately. And one mother disobeyed them, jumped over the fence, ran into the school, found her two kids and ran out with them.
Speaker 1 00:06:58 That was that. That's a happy mother now, although of course it's completely, the whole community is in total tragedy mode because of all the death and the needless stupidity behind it. And the feeling that they are conditioned to feel that there's nothing they can do about it. Everyone thinks there's nothing that can be done, but actually there are only 50 people maximum, you know, maybe a few on the both sides. There's 50 people, the Republican senators who, who make it impossible for it to be done some of the bad democratic ones too, hide behind the fact that they, that they, they get filibustered. If they do a bill, the house immediately where you have a clear democratic majority, they immediately pass the bill because the point is, this is not party politics. You have to understand because the Republican party is no longer a political party.
Speaker 1 00:07:57 You've got to understand that in order to do something about this, the Republican party has a political party. When they're in the minority, they are what's called a loyal opposition for a democracy to function. A loyal opposition means that they govern and they do what's needed for the people, even though they are not getting the full credit, they think, although individuals can, they promote, propose and do and execute good ideas, but they, they, they are loyal and they are opposed, but they govern cuz they are main realization. They take an oath of office. I take this to serve the constitution, the government of the United States and the good faith and good credit of the government of the United States. And uh, these people are, have been since Reagan actually since gold water, but he never won the gold water types from the sixties. They're gonna win.
Speaker 1 00:09:01 But finally they did win under Ronald Reagan and Ronald Reagan's first line was he opened his campaign in a Southern state, in the town where they murdered civil rights activists during the civil rights movement. And he talked about state's rights and his whole job and the job of the business, people who funded him from the fifties, they funded him as far back as the fifties to prevent the government's ability to protect labor unions, to regulate business. And they funded him and their strategy was to take over state legislatures and prevent the government from regulating either the states or all kinds of things, but particularly also the businesses. And around the same time, the NRA stopped resisting the gun manufacturers funding for lobbying purposes, which they had adamantly refused long back. They represented hunters, sports shooters, and they had no way wanted everybody to have guns. The NRA, when it was founded in the 19th century, they were not into it.
Speaker 1 00:10:17 They knew about the John Birch society. They knew about the KU Klux clad. They didn't want to have the whole country armed the right to bear arms amendment even. Well, no, let me finish this one. Just, you must, you know, you read Heather Scott Richardson on this, look up her last few sub postings and she makes it very clear and I'm so I'm not remembering very well. She's so wonderful. Great. His story history teacher, who is there, teaching us all through those blog. It's amazing. But anyway, the, the, the, um, so then they, the whole job was to weaken the government. So they're not a loyal opposition, as long as they can get enough people. Even if they're in the opposition as to say in the minority, they can block the majority from serving the people they do not take seriously. Actually there seems to be no mechanism in the constitution to remove a Congress person or a Senator or a judge who breaks their oath of office.
Speaker 1 00:11:21 Actually, I don't know what the judge's oath of office is. I do know the Senator and the Congress person and the president's oath of office. And they, they say that they are there to support the government. That's their job and that's their oath. And they take this freely and without reservation or purpose of evasion, that's in the, in the, in the vow, in the oath. So when they evade their responsibility to protect the government and to exercise their duties of the government, they're breaking their oath of office. For example, every single Republican Senator and many democratic ones signed the Grover Norquist Americans for tax reform pledge that they wouldn't raise taxes for the federal government, no matter what, and there, and therefore you've seen these, uh, these daring each other to go bankrupt, you know, to bankrupt the government and to throw the government into receivership, unable to pay the national debt.
Speaker 1 00:12:21 And so on, even though the national debt is a fake thing, because the, the dollar is the medium of exchange in the world and you can print as many as you need to. So it's kind of a fake thing. Actually, it's just a borrowing from the future really is what it is. And that's of course irresponsible. And they shouldn't do it as much as they do. And actually the ones who are trying to destroy the government, who will use the argument against the majority, which have been the Democrats by saying, you can't afford it. You don't wanna make you, you have to balance the budget and you'll do all these things like that. And the minute they win and have the presidency or have a majority in the Congress, they run up the deficit, Reagan ran it up, w Bush ran it up like crazy.
Speaker 1 00:13:08 Trump ended up hugely, but tax cuts for the rich, because their whole thing they're funded by the rich and by businesses and corporations to prevent the federal government's ability to control their predatory behavior of squeezing the poor people, driving them greater into poverty, concentrating the wealth in the hands of zillions of millionaires and hundreds of billionaires. You know, perhaps a thousand nowadays you could track it. You know, when Reagan came in, there were 17 billionaires and now there's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them because even the, even the Democrats, every Clinton for example, gave up trying to fight them because he, he, he didn't really announce that they were too cowardly. Him and Obama were basically, and harder didn't have time because Ray Reagan's people cheated Carter. That's how they got in. They cheated by offering weapons to the Iranians, to keep the hostages that is they've committed T trees in, in order to win because they're not a political party.
Speaker 1 00:14:17 The stand they're a movement on the part of the super wealthy, the, all the American oligarchs incorporate oligarchs and individual oligarchs to cripple and destroy the fed the power of the federal government so that the federal government cannot find them, cannot tax them, cannot control them. And the, and they confused the people into thinking that something that the federal government is doing bad things to them, whereas they are doing the bad things, but the, and the federal government with the new deal Roosevelt after they really, after they did this before in the Giled age, and they ended up putting the roaring twenties, bankrupting and wrecking the entire world economy, like they almost did again in 2008 now, uh, recently. And they were on the edge of it even now, still, uh, when that happened, there was such a catastrophe that they couldn't prevent the government from coming back with Roosevelt.
Speaker 1 00:15:20 And then Roosevelt's new deal. Took them under control, taxed them in the war. They were taxed. And after the war in the fifties, they had a 90% tax over a certain many number of millions, 90%, not 27 or 22%. And with all loopholes and lawyers and accountants paying nothing, 90% of taxes, they paid, there's still millionaires many. I don't think any billionaires, maybe at that time and who needs a billion, you can't spend it. You know, you can't deal with it. You just hire a bunch of people to manage it. You become like, like a government yourself institution stressed out all the time, worrying about all that, all that, all those resources that you and you hire people, you don't know if you can trust to manage them for you. It's a useless thing to be a billionaire in a way. Although among billionaires, there are some good ones don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 00:16:18 There are a few who are trying to use that in the right way. Although in fact, they haven't been effective so far against the dark money billionaires. Okay. So the point is, it's not that we're helpless. We can control this gun thing. For example, one of the figures I learned today, there were 400,000 AR 15 assault type rifles in 1994, when after some problems, there was a bill. I think the Brady bill, they, there was an, an abandoning of, of, uh, assault rifles in the pop to be sold to the population in general military have them for war, but they are for war. They are not for peace. They're not for hunting. They're not for sport. They're just for attacking. So there were 400,000 in the country, which is too many, a lot, but that's how they were for 10 years. That number didn't much change because they were banned, but they only made it.
Speaker 1 00:17:19 The people who got that bill through in 1994 only got, it was a 10 year long ban. It's expired in 2004. And that's the w Bush time. So the Congress and the, with the, with the majority Republican majority in the Congress, so they didn't renew it. You know, there are now 20 million of those guns in the country is the figure I learned this morning, 20 million military rifles in the civilian population in the United States. And then you, they fall into the hands of a demented kid, like the one in Valez, Texas. And he goes and shoots for 50 people. The other guy, the guy, the, the worst one, right, was the guy who was at the didn't like the country music wasn't even rock music, country music thing in Las Vegas, and got wormed his way into a hotel and killed hundreds. Not that long ago.
Speaker 1 00:18:18 It's like, I mean, I'm smiling because it's so asinine and completely no else in the world. Does this happen? Because our democracy has been compromised. We are in a fascist state. You know, what's what we fought, what the, and the people who are most gung-ho about it, the Maga people who are most confused about it, because one of the phenomena in that kind of a state is that some complete deadly Bob person will become the leader by shouting a lot of lies. And the, and the, and the, the wealthy people will buy the media time. So the media will never really speak openly. And honestly, even CNN doesn't, you know, they don't really speak the environment. They don't really deal, deal with the catastrophe being inflicted upon us and the whole world's people by these bad people. And, uh, it's just, uh, that was, that was, you know, the, the guy who was a bad business man was spoiled.
Speaker 1 00:19:23 Brett narcissist, unfortunate, sad childhood that he had by a crazy Nazi father. His father was a member of the Nazi party, not the German Nazi party. He was kicked out of Germany cuz he wouldn't serve in the German army. His father was grandfather, but he was American, but he was a Nazi. It was a party in America. In the thirties, before we went into the Roosevelt, took us into the war. People don't know that it was big enough to fill Madison square garden in New York where Trump's father was arrested. Cause they were having like a riot afterwards, out in the street after their rally for Nazi. Okay. So this guy who's concerned, the Nazi family, American Nazi family. So he, he was a bad business person. So he was bankrupt from the eighties and no, no local banks would lend him any money. So the Russians channeled, their ill got Russian.
Speaker 1 00:20:26 Oliar sent their ill, gotten games to him cuz he helped them loan their money to buy overpriced apartments in New York and Panama, wherever else he built his, his, uh, crappy buildings, uh, with loans from which they channeled to him through the Cypress bank and the Deutsche bank. And he got these loans and he's been their asset there for financial asset for 30 years. By the time he was running or 35 years since the eighties. And it's not a matter of there was a conspiracy or he, somebody peed on him in a bid in Moscow or he had a contract going with Putin to build a skyscraper in Moscow, one of his crappy buildings there, it wasn't a matter of that or a memo or whatever, you know, or, or man Fort. Although those were all very real. He was a long term asset of there that anybody could see can see who look who if their media would make this really clearly available without, without pretense and without not bothering dementia, this and that.
Speaker 1 00:21:29 So we are under that condition. And one of the big players, there are the gun manufacturers, 20 million AR 15 rifles sold at a high price to 20 million people. That's pretty good money. And uh, every time somebody shut down, they should be sued and that would change the whole thing. And the federal government department, if they had a loyal opposition that we would go, they could very quickly fix this. Uh, there was a show about Australia on, uh, link TV, Amy Goodman, where they had a horrible mass shooting in Australia 20 years ago. And within three weeks a conservative, you know, prime minister changed the whole gun laws and they haven't had one single mass shooting since in Australia for the last, almost 30 years now. So it can, you can change these things. It isn't that you can't do anything. You can easily change it. This is what you have to know. Even my beloved, uh, friend, local journalist, uh, radio journalist at, uh, uh, Joe Donahue from Albany, from a WM C, he had on unfortunately all too briefly, a man who has written a book called how to repeal the second amendment.
Speaker 1 00:22:52 So this sort of sacred right to bear arms has been twisted and misunderstood. It was actually a bill that was put in by slave owners is the key thing an amendment to make sure they kept their militia. And it's what is called a collective, right? So members of a militia, that means like the federal, the, the national reserve, you know, the reserve are, you know, the reserve soldiers like who've been sent to Iraq and Afghanistan lately by the bad w Bush stolen, uh, stolen Republican presidency, uh, in 2000 from Al gore in Florida. And, um, and uh, by violent demonstration, preventing vote counting, which should be well known, but it is known enough, but not well known enough. And you wouldn't know, it wouldn't make any impact, even if they would publish it now, because if conspiracy lies are so many that people would think it was, uh, some kind of made up thing, people are just so confused.
Speaker 1 00:23:54 They can't understand. They think there is no truth because there've been so much lying. That's part of, one of the strategies of fascists to tell such lies. Like Hitler told everybody that everybody wanted to destroy Germany, cuz they had lost a war 30 years before. So therefore they were sure to attack everybody that they were Putin told the, selling the Russians now that du Ukrainians and the NATO wanted to attack them. And so then he attacked them and actually w Bush started this. We should admit he attacked Iraq without being provoked. Yeah, he was no good, bad dictator, formally supported by our own CIA against Iran for a long time an ally actually, but a bad leader of course, cruel and despotic desperate. But nevertheless, they didn't attack us at nine 11. They had not the Saudis in <inaudible>. The people were Saudis on those planes, not Iraqs and there was no reason. And then it pretended he had nuclear weapons. He did not have nuclear weapons. And they were international inspectors who didn't find them and said, no, he doesn't have them. So it was another lie told to us. And that started the idea of preemptive attacking people, which had been a no-no since the end of the second world war.
Speaker 1 00:25:18 So that gave put in his idea. So, and uh, and then we were didn't stop him. Nevermind. Anyway, didn't stop him in Syria. Then they destroyed that whole country. We just let that happen. And uh, so we can easily do this if we, we can, if we had a loyal opposition or if we had a filibuster proof majority, or even if we had a thin majority where there weren't some traders really Republican in mind or anti-government people in mind who are part of the oil industry and the dark money such as cinema and mention, and there are a few others hiding behind them. Apparently there may be four or five others in the democratic party. So it, it is not really Republican and Democrats, not politics. I'm not talking politics here. I'm talking the insight that the all alleg Garic Aris, you know, money aristocratic forces have used their money as dark money to destroy the government since and have been empowered to do it with only, you know, faltering opposition since 1980, since the victory of Reagan in 1980, who didn't come in to develop the federal government came in to destroy it actually openly said.
Speaker 1 00:26:47 So that's why they elected him. And it's like the it's like in the same sense that the slave owners wanted to destroy the union where the union wanted to take away their slaves. Lincoln father was a person who was a single person farmer without slaves only hired labor could not compete with slave plantations. So Lincoln had it in his da that that slave plantation was a bad concentration of wealth, which made democracy impossible, created oligarchic rule. And they, and therefore defended the union and did so effectively, fortunately, but it's an endless thing that people who are, you know, the corporation became in a way, the slave owners, the equivalent of the slave owners. And of course they used and pumped up the myth of the lost cause of the Southern, uh, Confederacy. That's why these people run around with the Confederate battle flag to destroy the union. Okay. But the union is what helped us. There's a final thing I'll mention in this one. My, my pointed out to me by my eldest son, wonderful article, but hard to find,
Speaker 1 00:27:57 But a strategist for the beginnings of the takeover of the Republican party, by the way, Lincoln was a Republican. So I have absolutely nothing against the Republican party as a democratic party. It no longer is a democratic party. I have to understand. Maybe McClosky maybe, um, uh, um, the guy from Utah, you know, um, the was a former presidential candidate who talked about the takers and the makers who, who voted for a little bit of this and that when it was clear, it wouldn't go through actually only <laugh>. But, uh, so it's not a political party anymore. It's the Confederacy, it's the oligos. It's the people who want to squeeze you poor people. We poor people. I'm just the professor. They wanna squeeze us everything. Blood out of a stone of our poor, our problems, our non billionaires. That's what it is. And it's there to obstruct the government to, uh, 1 0 6.
Speaker 1 00:29:06 We should talk. We talk about nine 11. Everybody knows what is, we should also know. Everybody should know 1 0 6, 1 0 6 is when they tried to overthrow. And actually there was another, uh, one we should celebrate like that. Or we should remember like that, which was when the Republicans blocked the vote counting in Miami dad county, which would've turned up a majority for gore in Florida, which would've given him the presidency, which would, he was the environmental president. Would've started working on the environment 22 years ago, actively and would not have invaded countries. Oil countries would not have gone out and become a governing. Used the military for the oil companies. You know, not if the had nine 11 happened, might have done some police section against the criminal, uh, bin law in conspiracy, which was a Saudi conspiracy actually funded by Saudis bin. LA was a Saudi and all his people were Saudis, not Iraq and not FG Afghani.
Speaker 1 00:30:11 Would've been a police section. Maybe he would have, but he wouldn't have invaded an occupied Afghanistan or Iraq. And he would've put that huge money. Trillions that we wasted. He would've put wrecking those countries. He would've put that into climate change, amelioration adaptation. He would've challenged the oil industry, the dark money, the dark source of the dark money. We would be way ahead on the planet with your typhoons and hurricanes that are ripping your Marga hats off your heads and in the tornadoes and the floods that are ruining your crops, flooding your pickup trucks and you can't AR 15. Can't help you with floods in tornadoes, can't you.
Speaker 1 00:31:00 So the, the, the second amendment should be repealed or amended to say, this is only for the militia is allowed to bear. Arms civilians are not allowed to bear arms, but they can have arms bear arms in the military. Since I'm a arm bearing person, they're not a military they're civilians. They can have a hunting rifle. They can have a target shooting sports pistol, but they can't. Some of, some of them might be grabbed by some crazy kid and going somewhere and they'd be flicking the bolt and shooting a little bit with a low caliber gun. And they would harm some people, but not, not twenties and forties and hundreds of them.
Speaker 1 00:31:45 So that should be amended. And immediately there should be a banning of assault weapons. Again, there should be turned back in. And I think it's unfair almost to some of the individual citizens who brought them out of fear. And maybe there should be some buyback, forced, forced penalizing, few billions penalized. What is one of those things? Cost must be one, let's say it's $1,000. I, it might be 2000. I don't know, but let's say it's a thousand take a thousand by 20 million. So then add a zero that's 10,000 times 2 million. So it's 10,002 million. So 20,001 millions. So that's five, 20,000 is four zeros. Add six zero to that. That's 10 zeros. That's 20 billion, 20 billion. So find them 10 billion or take back all of it, but it was not illegal. Find them 10 billion for irresponsibility. They were, they could have put various things where they couldn't be used or magazines.
Speaker 1 00:32:58 I mean, they were raised, they could have even done. So, but anyway, find them half of that profit and then buy back the guns or, or subsidize the buybacks of all the guns, not to penalize the poor frightened people. You could do it in a nice way instead of punishing individuals and then take those 20 million guns right off the street. And that'd be great. Save your budget for your, for your Pentagon. Give them back to the don't, destroy them, give them back to the Pentagon. They can then use them for in war time in armories, keep them in an armory and use them in case there is a, a war, and then they would hand them out to reserve troops or they can, and reserve troops can keep them in an armory. That's very easy sensible.
Speaker 1 00:33:48 And then the 90% of people, and then expose the filibusters, the disloyal opposition, and then put something into the, put an amendment in the constitution that acts that can be proven to be breaking the oath of office acts such as signing at the Grover Norquist pledge that they will not raise taxes for any reason for the government, because that is not upholding the faith in good credited of the constitution and the government of the United States. That's bankrupting. The union governor course has openly said he wants to destroy the government. He doesn't just wanna trim it. He has openly said that he sometimes changes when he is challenged pretends. Oh yeah, no. I just mean to cut it back to, you know, or can interfere with my payloads of Charles Koch and Robert Mercer and these kind of like oligo, billionaire oligos, who, who have cleverly bought the government with the, with the bought through controlling the minority, uh, party.
Speaker 1 00:34:50 Oh yeah. Final thing. I want to say my son, a wonderful son, God. He said that he read an, he explained article that from, from FDR, the new deal, which Biden is trying to make a new, new deal. Cuz we need one. Cuz we had basically 1929 in 2008 where, but we bailed the banks and we stopped it from being world, but it was very destructive and there's this huge debt still lying around here and there. Uh, because of it still, that could overwhelm us actually easily. So it needs to be managed very carefully. We're teetering, you could say really it's really serious. And um, but they managed it better, you know? And um, he's trying to do a new new deal. Well, anyway, new new deal turned out to be what they, what the burden, the Republican strategist who wrote this article or rather to take over the Republican party strategist who wrote this article, uh, he said they have Santa Claus, the new deal social system, the welfare system is Santa Claus.
Speaker 1 00:35:53 So the government is Santa. So they will always win elections and there's no way to fight them other than to compete with them, to do things for the people, which is what of course a political party should be doing. But they don't wanna do that because they're working for the oligarchs. So they, they, they created what they call tax cut, Santa Claus. So they used the fake idea of tax cuts, which made, and then used that with the sort of regular people like salary earn like me thinking, oh, I get a thousand dollars back or I don't have to pay like, like 10, you know, like four 30% or something or 20% for my like $80,000 salary or something. You know, I get back for two or $3,000. So that's great tax cut. I okay. I vote for that. But meanwhile, the ones who really getting the tax cuts are the billionaires.
Speaker 1 00:36:43 When you, when you have a billion dollar tax bill, cuz you have a hundred billion, well that means you have like 10 or $15 billion, then you get a five or $10 billion or even a total tax cut, keep your a hundred billion. But anyway, it sounds good. So they call the tax cut Santa clause versus social system tax, Santa clause. <laugh> quite brilliant in it own way. You know, you know, mu SCON, you know, put, you know, the fascist dictators can be amusing when they're dancing every day, but they're just terrible liars. And they destroy the lives of the people of the countries they rule and they at end and their neighbors because they have to deflect resentment by making war on other people. Cause they're greed knows no bounds. So democracies are safer when they, when they real democracies. When you have a loyal opposition, they, they lose the election.
Speaker 1 00:37:40 They then think, what can we do more for the people that would make them vote us in next time? What are these people not doing, right? Where are they making it wrong? And then they, they can do that. But, but meanwhile, we govern, we show we are already ready to do it and that's a loyal opposition. Okay. And that's what we need. And if we had that right now, or you know, 15 or 20 mass shootings, a hundred, 500 mass shootings, I think there are 3,500 a year in the country. Some, I think that's a figure. There have been thousands since 2004.
Speaker 1 00:38:16 And uh, and that we would put a bill through right away and clean up this gun mess. And then some demented kid like that, maybe he'd go in there with a knife, might knife somebody. He might do something bad. Might beat somebody over their head with something still might kill somebody or, and himself, he was obviously clear at wanting to kill. And they're not telling us what drugs he was on, which stupid psychiatrists put him on, what drug that make you crazy or which one didn't say he is crazy and shouldn't be going to school or wherever, whatever, why? I don't know why he killed kids. Really. We don't know. And they could find out and tell us, but they clearly won't just like they did. They let the police pretend they had defended everybody. When the police actually had been completely incompetent, actually as heavily armed as they were, they were incompetent.
Speaker 1 00:39:13 So I'm sorry to talk about this, but this is the thing for the day. We have to clearly think, please read Heather Cox Richardson's blog. It's free. There's a way is pay wall. If you want like more extra, if you this and that, but she gives it all away to everybody. She's a real history teacher. You take your American history class properly with her. Please do. And uh, and don't listen to Fox news. The man that lies is a complete liar. He actually should. There should be a rule also that media cannot brainwash people. There was a rule up to Reagan Reagan canceled. What is called the fairness doctrine, where you can't express opinion, unless there's a counter opinion in the same moment in the same program, someone actually challenging what you just said, like fact checking you right in your face. So that stops propaganda.
Speaker 1 00:40:04 He canceled that. He's got, he took him few years once he got in, but he saw to that being canceled. So there could be propaganda. And then the Murdoch people have enriched themselves by brainwashing people to confuse them telling lies. And then you can't just pick out the truth when there's so many different lies and conspiracy theories. That's on purpose. In fact, there are conspiracy. They were doing conspiracy. They have been it's called the dark money. Can read Jane May's book called dark money. Wonderful, honest journalist dark money had to defy assault by the dark money people, the K brothers to write the book.
Speaker 1 00:40:45 Okay. So that's the, that's the homework from this blog I'm doing <laugh> anyway, I'm sorry. I'm only laughing. Cause it seems ridiculous to me that we, we are, we, we were a good edge, well educated country enough. We had decent classes in our things. People didn't allow people like Fox news to tell you lies 12 hours a day, you know, with different people, just lying and lying to you. And uh, you know, Trump's like media, the enemy of the people, his typical big lie technique, his own propaganda media are your enemy. Yes. Because they're lying to you and brainwashing you, but the regular media trying to control abuses of power. That's the job of the fourth estate from the time of Thomas Jefferson. That's the time what's called the fourth estate is the journalists are supposed to keep tyrants in check and oligarchs so that people know what is being done around them and to them.
Speaker 1 00:41:50 And so they are the friends of the people, not the enemies of the people, but bad propaganda and brainwashers and liars are the enemies of the people. Yes. But the big lie technique is to say what they are doing is being done by people who are not doing it. That's the way of confusing. You, you understand that's called the big lie. You believe it because you wouldn't think you would be so preposterous. These lies that you who will think nobody would, nobody would dare say anything. So preposterous, that's the trolls big lie strategy, which was coined by the, I think the expression comes from BLEs who was Hitler. Propend whos reincarnated in Fox news right now who should know that. And it's faking, it's not news. It's Fox propaganda. Okay. So I know I had to give you some homework. I'm sorry. And, uh, Jesus, and, uh, have a look at UA and Krishna.
Speaker 1 00:42:50 And uh, all the saints and angels are working to help the poor people who were killed. And every time they get killed, they do work for them. So don't let your own lives be killed. Those, those of you who believed don't live with resentment and anger, don't, don't those lovely people who you loved. They were happy people. They were cheerful going to school. They were loving learning and they loved you. And they were so happy to come home to and show you what they learned. And they loved it. When you were happy, when you were upset, angry had fights in the household. I mean, they were unhappy. So don't be angry. You know, even the evil, crazy kid don't hate the evil crazy kid. You know, if you hadn't been shot by the cops, don't, don't be sitting, wanting to have him executed. I mean, maybe he, maybe some of these people in some state will be executed where there is capital punishment, but you know, that's not gonna give you satisfaction and it's not gonna give your angelic departed one who will be in heaven and will be looking down that yours, that now your life has been bitter and you're poisoned and you're angry and you're hating and that you shouldn't live like that.
Speaker 1 00:44:05 That's not, that's not the way to honor them. The way to honor them is grieve and get over it eventually and not in a rush and, and, and love and love others. Like you loved the ones you lost. Okay. And love yourself. Like the one you loved, you lost like the, like the one you lost loved you loved yourself like that, which it means be happy for their, for their sake as well as your own. Okay. And your neighbors and friends. Okay. And then joyfully vote for people who are like democracy and joyfully protest and speak out vigorously, but happily and humorously and joyfully against the liars who are trying to wreck your protection against them, which is actually the government for the most part. It's, it's the, it's the dream of them. The government of the people by the people, for the people that's, that's the government Lincoln. And that, that, that are your parents and grandparents. So many of you, many of them Marga people, their parents and grandparents fought against people like the people. Now they are idolizing. They've become so confused to try to help clarify their confusion. Speak out. You found this on the
Speaker 0 00:45:23 Web.
Speaker 1 00:45:24 Okay. Yes. I know that's enough. Thank you so much. And I'm sorry to be vigorous today and a little bit critical. And I am cheery though. <laugh> in spite of it. If they kill me, I die cheered. You know, that's, that's my slogan. Actually. We have to be happy. We, the only way we will have peace is we have to be, try to be so joyful and happy and be joyful about the good things in life. That even if some crazy kills us, we'll die. Happy, and then we'll be reborn happy. We'll take happiness to heaven. If that's what you believe, you know, we won't die angry. We won't die bitter. We won't leave behind bitterness. Okay. That's key. Okay. So cheer up. I'd be happy. See you next seal later, <laugh>
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