Chanting and Practicing the Heart Sutra - Ep. 304

Episode 304 September 04, 2022 00:47:45
Chanting and Practicing the Heart Sutra - Ep. 304
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Chanting and Practicing the Heart Sutra - Ep. 304

Sep 04 2022 | 00:47:45

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The Heart Sutra is one of the most profound and widely studied texts in the Buddhist canon. It is recited at the start of teachings, events & as a blessing. In this podcast Robert A.F. Thurman leads a recitation of The Heart Sutra and gives a teaching for all audiences on its connections to the Four Noble Truths and the Buddha's Eight Fold Path of liberation.

Professor Thurman begins this podcast with an explanation of the Heart Sutra focusing on the the dialog between Shāriputra and Avalokiteśvara in the Buddha’s samadhi field, and it’s connection to Clear Light, Bliss, Relativity and how one can avoid absolutism when thinking about emptiness.

Podcast concludes with Professor Thurman explaining how the practice of reciting The Heart Sutra is the key to understanding its teaching as a tool for mind transformation. He also offers a reading of a passage introducing Samantabhadra Bodhisattva from the third book of The Flower Ornament Sutra, translated by Thomas Cleary.

“The Transcendent Wisdom Heart Sutra, known as The Heart Sutra in all Mahayana Buddhist countries, and The Heart of Wisdom in Tibet, is a concise expression of the profound vision of reality that is the root of liberation from suffering. Tibetan religious all know this by heart and chant is solemnly at the beginning of every ceremony. In addition to a prescription for enlightenment, they consider it the most powerful exorcism, purifier, and developer of merit as well of wisdom.”

Robert A.F. Thurman from Essential Tibetan Buddhism

Professor Thurman’s translation of the Heart Sutra can be found in his book, Essential Tibetan Buddhism, on page 171, under the chapter heading, “Practicing the Liberating Wisdom” though it has evolved a bit since then.

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Speaker 2 00:00:14 Welcome to my Bob Thurman podcast. I'm so grateful. Some good friends enabled me to present them to you. If you enjoy them and find them useful, please think of becoming a member of Tibet house us to help preserve Tibetan culture. Tibet house is the Lamas cultural center in America. All best wishes. Have a great day. Speaker 3 00:00:48 This is episode 304 reading chanting and exploring the heart Sutra. Speaker 2 00:01:18 We are going to read together the, uh, heart Sutra in English, in the Zen manner. And I'm, I don't know who kindly sent me a mysterious supporter, sent me the wooden fish I've been complaining to about all this time that I've been doing it, which I will use to keep the rhythm try to. Okay, so ready go in English wisdom. Did I single location? The blessed Lord was dwelling on the vulture. How to gather with great communities of Mende bodies, Lord himself in it changed body called illumination of the profound. Justin. The noble body was realizing the profound transcendence of wisdom, and he realized that his five body mind processes were avoid of any intrinsic reality does power dress and noble boy. Speaker 2 00:03:02 The great hero, the swim Nobles practice of the profound transcendence of wisdom. What should he learn them? Noble, the dog, great hero dress Nobles noble daughter wishes to engage in the practice of the profound sentence of wisdom. Realize it in this way. There is my body. Mind processes should be truly to be void of any intrinsic. Reality matter is voidness voidness is matter. Voidness is not other than matter matter, other than voidness likewise sensations, conceptions, mental functions and consciousness also void. Thus, all things are voidness sinless UN unsustainable, impeccable UN decreased and unre PRA thus in voidness. There are no matter, no sensation, no conception, no mental function, no consciousness. No, I hear no there no tongue, no body, no mentality, no form, no sound, no sense, no taste, no texture, no ID. Um, there are no sense media from I do mentalities and media, and then there consciousness media from visual to mental consciousness media either there are no ignorance and, and no sensation of ignore and no old. Speaker 2 00:04:56 So on up to no old age and depth and no cessation of old age and death, either. Likewise, there are no suffering, no origination, no cessation, no intuitive wisdom, no attainment. And no non-attainment either. Therefore sh suffer is without attainment. She lives in reliance on transcendent wisdom. Her spirit is unobscured and free of fear passing party and all confusion. She ultimately succeeds in Nirvana and all the borders who live in past present and future rely on transcendent wisdom to reach an so manifestly perfect bud hood in unle perfect enlightenment, such being. So there is the mantra of transcendent wisdom, the mantra of great science, the on Exel mantra, mantra, mantra that ends all suffering. It is not false. And to be known as to the transcendent wisdom mantra as follows day, got the power, got the, some, got the, the, got the powder. Some got the, well, got the, got the, some, got the were put should the bodies, the great hero learned the profound transcendence of wisdom there upon the blessed Lord rose from be somebody and nobodies, the great hero, excellent Nobles. Speaker 2 00:06:53 And so it is, so it is one should practice that profound tendence of wisdom taught it. And even the transcendent bird has, will joyfully congratulate you when the blessed Lord had spoken, thus that and everyone in that Audi and some, the whole world with the SCOs humans, Titans unfair is rejoiced and all uploaded what the bud said, okay. Be gone, be gone any bad moods, any bad vibes, be gone, begun, begun. I will give you a little commentary on the heart Sutra that you can use. And, um, first of all, the, they always recite the names of the Sutra in Sanskrit, which is known as the language, the divine language, the language of the gods of which the Buddhist consider. There are many and many benevolent and good ones. They're also demons, but an anti gods, but there are gods and they spoke Sanskrit. In fact, they tend to speak Sanskrit because it's a very perfect language. Speaker 2 00:08:09 It's a perfected sort of very, very technically accurate and marvelous and flexible language. So Bugatti, however, one thing it's a female it's considered a female. The wisdom of transcendent wisdom Prita is considered a goddess and, and wisdom is associated with a female sort of archetypally and compassion with the male arche, surprisingly, uh archetypally and wisdom being the source of compassion, like the female gives birth to also other females and also males in mammal human form. So it's called Baggo and Baggo Vati means the lucky one. Uh, the blessed one, like Buddha is the name. Baban is usually the name of Buddha title of, of an enlightened person. And later in Indian history, it becomes to be the names of different, uh, loving gods <inaudible>. But Illa is the female of that. So it's goddess, ER, then her means essence or heart, but her heart it's kind of cognate with the English heart. Speaker 2 00:09:12 And, uh, Sutra means Sutra means a thread of language, a thread of meaning, a thread of insight Sutra. And, uh, so the, the thread, the, the thread of, uh, of expression of the heart of transcended wisdom, the female Buddha, the woman, Buddha, Buddha woman in Tibetan, then the Tibetan title, because it was holy and scriptural in Tibet, John D DEMA, that's just a translation of the Sanskrit. And then my translation, I think with proper blessed lady, Buddha, transcendent wisdom, heart Sutra, and then the first thing thus, did I hear on a single occasion? This is not just a thing. Like I heard it around town, you know, some people just simply say, thus, have I heard as if like I just heard it around, but that doesn't mean that thus did I hear on a single occasion means that the narrator of this, this text, uh, was, uh, and, uh, was present when the Buddha taught this or in, in fact this one was actually taught by Abba Esk, and I'll explain that. Speaker 2 00:10:20 And, but in the Buddha's presence and in that sense authorized by the Buddha. So the dust did I hear, and I heard it in one, on a special singular occasion, even sometimes I like to say then the blessed Lord or the blessed one was dwelling on the vulture peak at Roger Guha, which is where he did teach all the different versions of the transcendent wisdom Sutra from one syllable to a hundred thousand lines and even sort of cosmically, even like almost endless. And when he taught it in the longer ones, he did a, a special effect, stuck out his tongue, which Buddhist tongue is very huge. Like a Yogi tongue can touch his hairline with it, tip of it. And it covers his whole face. If he sticks it out. Anyway, he stuck out his tongue and he light came from the tongue and everyone present on earth on this earth of Shak moon's earth. Speaker 2 00:11:14 They saw him also doing this in many other worlds to other huge audiences of people and that, and those buds were also had their tongue stuck out and they were into, they were making temporarily visible to their audiences, all the other massive audiences throughout the galaxy or throughout the universe, many galaxies. It was like a incredible vision like that, that they conveyed to people just to inspire them. That if they think it's hard to understand this, this ultimate non-duality ultimate reality teaching, um, then they should realize there are many people facing it and learning it. And it is not, it may indeed be possible for them to understand it. So then the blessed one was dwelling on the vulture peak, where he teach these and he had Mendis, which were the like stra the celibate monastics, but they were not monastics like in, they were wandering. Speaker 2 00:12:07 Um, Mendis because they didn't stay in one place except during the rainy season, not to inflict upon the lay community, the need to feed them since they, they lived on arms on the gifts of food. So they would move around constantly. And therefore Mandiant is the proper translation for BHU or BHU Felix female and male Mendi. And then BOS can be lay people. Some of them are Mendi. Some of them are, are, are lay people. And then this is very important. Then the whole suture takes place in the field of the Buddha Soma, which is called a teaching Soma, a special kind of Soma where the Buddha, without words creates a field where in people's insight and concentration and openness to a newer insight and a new experience of the world, uh, is intensified by the power. Or even though long run, people have to work through it and open their mind to their own cultivated understanding and meditative concentration. Speaker 2 00:13:07 But temporarily the Buddha opens this field to make them especially receptive to give them kind of the pattern and the, the goal, the target of where they hope their me one hopes their meditation will lead called illumination of the profound. And the profound is not simply some empty space. As people will only think emptiness means, uh, emptiness is not an empty, simply an empty space because emptiness is empty of itself. And therefore it's not a thing like a space opposite to a, non-space like a solid object. Like matter. It is matter as well as empty space between seeming material things. All of it is emptiness empty of itself, therefore filled with all relativity. So in a way, the real meaning of the illumination of the profound is that you, we think that these material things are all absolute things in themselves. Like the floor has floors. Speaker 2 00:14:03 I have Inness ego has eagerness chair has chairness like plateau thought and you know, more primitive America, Western metaphysics thought and Indian as well, and Chinese as well, sort of substantially everything around them. And the deeper view is that everything is an inconceivable web of interrelatedness. And to discover that one has to realize that wherever you try to find the absolute nature of whatever you look at, it will disappear under your investigative analysis. And so then you'll have a space like experience. And then the most important object then to disappear is the space like experience. <laugh> because that's a relational experience that you have where there seems to be no relation and no, you, and you go through almost like a nothingness experience and a spatial experience. And then that disappears and everything's here. But then now it's, hereness has a different quality. It's like, instead of seeing something, you're seeing a mirror reflection of something it's being reflected in the mirror of emptiness, you can say, as long as you don't get stuck on the idea that emptiness is something opposite to all the solid things. Speaker 2 00:15:11 It rather is the nature of all the solid things. They are all transparency, clear, light, same as you are. So you are there that way completely and ultimately, and absolutely interwoven with all things and they with you, that's what emptiness means. And so the illumination of the profound is where people really get to feel that way. And that's what happens. Okay. And then at that time, what is so interesting, he then empowers the divine body sat za. Who's an alota Ishvara who is worrying about all the human beings and animals of all kinds, even hell beings, even other kinds of dumber gods. He's worrying about them all in the sense of are they free of suffering or not? Alota means to look with caring, loving concern. So alota and means God. So Avalo is considered the bud Saba who is already having become a Buddha then remains among beings as a Buda, a, an enlightening hero or an enlightening being in order to open them. Speaker 2 00:16:21 And he is the manifestation of the compassion of all Buddhas. They say of a look at this. He's like an archetype of the active compassion of all Buddhas. So he is born of emptiness inside and realization of the wisdom of emptiness. And he is the action of emptiness as the active dynamic compassion that helps to liberate others from suffering, by teaching them emptiness, which is freedom to relate to things without suffering, without harming, without damage to self or other in a blissful happy, loving way. And so it's very significant that he is the one who speaks this heart Sutra, other transcendent wisdom, Sutra have other speakers, sometimes Buddha himself, sometimes the Mendi Sabu and et cetera. And even the God Indra, the Indian Indian sort of Odin, you know, but, uh, but in this case, it's especially powerful and valuable heart suture is the God of compassion, the bud, the divine bud of compassion. Speaker 2 00:17:20 So then he teaches. And the gist of the teaching is that he saw things himself. He, he saw that all of his body and mind the five aggregates of body sensation, conception, emotion, volition, and, and consciousness, those five levels of process of the body mind complex. He saw that they were all reflections in the mirror of emptiness. So they were made of emptiness, had made of the clear light of emptiness. They, they, they were were themselves, but yet they were transparent to emptiness. He saw like that don't think he just saw them disappear, cuz he'd already done that. But he saw the disappearance as fused with the appearance. Therefore the appearance being something more magical, right. You know, like, like an illusion, like a magical illusion and therefore more malleable to ameliorate the situation for the benefit of all beings. But the key key point of the key thing of these famous four phrases matter is voidness voidness is matter. Speaker 2 00:18:23 Voidness is not other than matter. Neither is matter other than voidness. And this is an unusual translation by me because the tradition was to call it form. And of course not voidness but emptiness, so form is emptiness. Emptiness is form form already seems like a more vague thing to people. Of course, this chair leg here is form, but, but we have this, we don't really get the solidity of it out of it being formed. We get, you know, a picture of it is also formed, but when I bang on it, it's solid is its materiality. But that's what emptiness is as well as the space between the wrongs, you know, as well as the space around it. So emptiness is this unbroken flowing inconceivable field of infinite energy that is shaped by being's awareness, either a MIS knowing awareness or a validly knowing awareness. It is shaped into the forms of life. Speaker 2 00:19:20 And, uh, but it's all the one thing that's, that's the that's, that's the, what, what he saw. So anyway, so the Mendi, sorry, PCHA, who's more dualistic in his philosophy up until he encounters these kind of teachings. That is to say, he thinks that the world of suffering some Sarahs here and Nirvana somewhere else. And it is that sort of human escapist feeling for, of sensitive people that, that caused the bud to allow a dualistic form of his teaching, knowing that when they try to escape from everything, this kind of spiritual sensitive seeker who seeks to escape, suffering that way, they will somehow realize that there is no nothing to stay in outside of everything. <laugh> because emptiness will prove to be empty and it will be filled with everything. And then they must relate compassionately with all of it. He knows they will discover that by themselves. Speaker 2 00:20:13 But if they were told that ahead of time, in many cases, they would either become discouraged that this can't possibly play, be a place free of suffering. Cuz I just stubbed my toe or they would become complacent in the op in a worse way, almost where they say, well, I can be mean or I can be bad or I can do whatever it makes. Cause nothing matters. Cuz it's all Niana thinking again of Nirvana as some sort of separate state. Okay. And crushing. Therefore the sensitivity of relationship, which is the key teaching of B key discovery of Budha, the absolute sensitivity of relationship, therefore the absolute need for compan relatively absolute need for compassion. So then he, you know, noble son or noble daughter, he adds into female being more wise when he's asked about how would the son do it? He says the son or daughter would do it, have a look at this. Speaker 2 00:21:00 Rod does. And he gives that to message. And then he negates everything. He says, no, no, no. And everybody means by that by the no like no, no it's not. Especially no self it's, no everything even no, no. And the no, no. Just means that the nose is, is not an absolute thing. Separate from other things, a thing in itself, no intrinsically real or intrinsically intrinsically identifiable, no intrinsically identifiable with its own fixed identity. There's a relational nose when you don't specially examine it to see what's its absolute state. And that's the one we sniff with <laugh> we bump into, we see it, our field of vision. I call it the hood ornament, but it's no absolute nose is what he means only a relational nose. But to, because we're so much into concretizing, everything we perceive around it, he's emphasizing the fact that it will disappear under analysis. Speaker 2 00:21:54 When we look to find that as a solid thing. So it becomes only a relational thing, but he's emphasizing here that no, no, no aspect as Buddha often does to try to open our mind to the different state of the relational things and, and, and open us up to the flow of relationality, the flow of the grace of interconnecting with everything in a, in a loving, happy way, in an open minded way. So no old age and death, no cessation, no, no ignorance, no MIS knowledge, no cessation of ignorance, all this sort of thing, no attainment, but no non-attainment so even which is very interesting, meaning even the ignorant, miss knowing person, such as ourselves, um, maybe I sort of speak for myself, but somewhere in me, there is this wisdom, this knowing this interconnectedness, this openness interconnection, indeed I made of it. My life force itself is, is the compassionate wise interconnectedness with all reality. Speaker 2 00:22:55 That's what it is. But I don't know that. I only think I'm this isolated and alienated person. Then the mantra is also worth talking about because the mantra is like kind of the seed, um, seminal meditation of that. And the GA GA means PGA means super gone para some GAE means super, totally gone. Bud means enlightenment, which means both awakening and expanding to know everything, how to help people and the nature of it. Also's therefore with giving you the compassionate ability to help other beings effectively. So that's B D and then swaha means all is well, all hail, you know, salute and home is just an invocation. And even they often recite the mantra without the O because in a way they don't need to invoke the reality because they're focusing really on that. The false reality disappears, the false reality that leads to suffering disappears. Speaker 2 00:23:54 So what is gone is not like you're going into some empty space that some people, many people wrongly understand emptiness to be an empty place where you go and escape from everything, which really is a kind of psychotic state. Actually, if you get stuck in it, it's not a good state. And, uh, although there are psychotic da who do get stuck in it actually in bud, in the Buddhist cosmology, which I don't have time to explain yet now, but what is gone is suffering gone, gone totally gone. Totally. You know, super gone, super, totally gone. Patte is all enlightenment and it's all good. So, aha. That's really what it's saying. And then when you repeat that as a mantra in sort of the most seminal linguistic way, and, uh, we, I only did it three times when I read it together, but when you read it sometimes on your own, if you do it before any practice or something, which is the way that DBE monks do, and the Zen monks do all throughout east Asia, you know, gone, gone, totally. Speaker 2 00:24:52 They re they, when you say they got it, then you murmur it without chanting aloud. You God, they got got God, they got, God, God, they got their God, their bodies. So then you're doing like a sort of mindfulness or awareness practice where you're just letting the stream of celebrating Sah. The fact that suffering is gone when you're really open to reality, and then you feel filled and overflowing with love and joy and suffering is gone and you're celebrating that. And you're keeping your mind focused on that stream of speech. And then you're wavering mind. You'll constantly bring it back to that. And it becomes a very deep and wonderful meditation, but be careful what is also gone is a sense of Godness. Speaker 2 00:25:49 So don't get stuck in a space as you can come to what is called space like echoed. Samati where everything just becomes space. You even go out of body, you don't feel your body is floating in space. You lose your sense of being confined within a body, looking out at objects and you are the vastness of the space you have that you go, you can have that experience and don't then have don't clump, your absolute test idea. This is the absolute, because it's not it's, it's just another, it's a relational experience of what we might expect the absolute opposite of the relative to be. But yet we are experiencing it as relational beings. We are surrendering to it. We are flowing into it and therefore it is a relational experience. And therefore it will also become empty. If we change orientation, we enter it by looking for the solidity in things. Speaker 2 00:26:42 And then it seems that everything, that everything is just solid space. But when we look for the solidity of the space that will also disappear and everything will be back and this matter, and the emptiness will be to be the same. And then that's really what enlightenment is. Cuz then you are with all the beings actually, and you are able to love them and help them and free them and so on. So it's kind of like freedom, you know, when you're free, it doesn't mean you no longer exist when you're free. It means you're not bound by some false sense of being absolutely connected to this exact thing you're free and open. And therefore you relate only out of love and joy and choice, you know, cause you're free and you do it without losing your freedom because you're volunteering to be part of reality rather than being dragged by, you know, a sense of entrapment in reality, including a sense of entrapment in a space of freedom seeming space of where there's nothing there seeming nothing to see. Speaker 2 00:27:44 Okay. So be aware of that and be very clear about the what's called the Royal reason of relativity when you know that, which Ms. Einstein also touched on and discovered beautifully. And he finally called it love. It seems that letter that people were saying was a forgery may well have been a real thing. It seems released from a troll, kept at Jerusalem at her Hebrew university for two decades, for decades after his death. Okay. So that's, that's the, my main commentary. And um, uh, then finally he is clapping at the end and applauding in a way what the boil said, which they didn't do in ancient time. They don't clap, you know, but we clap clapping is considered a way of sort of sealing our freedom and not letting anything that would bind us, need bad vibes or bad moods or anything or bad spirits come in and, and invade us and bind us. Speaker 2 00:28:41 And that's why we clap three times, which is what the Sutra itself does. You know, there's a wonderful story. A, a Japanese, no play where some Yogi monk wants to show a local villagers that a haunted temple, he can survive a Demonn and a haunted temple for the night. And what he does is he has the heart suture painted in Chinese characters over every inch of his body. And then, but then in the morning he's still dead. It's almost cuz they have to make a tragedy right in no theater. And in the morning he still dead anyway. And they discovered that the Demonn went into the ear hole, which he couldn't, you know, and the breathing, the nostrils, you know, which he couldn't write the heart surgery on that, but the Demonn will never mess with anybody with the heart surgery. And if he had his mind well enough, they would have messed with him. Speaker 2 00:29:26 Okay. All right. Thank you very much. That's a commentary that you could sometimes use. Okay. Now I'm gonna give a small segment which can be used and it's sort of in a way, the compliment of the heart Sutra to, you know, emphasizing the invisibility bliss, void indivisible by specifying, you know, going, you know, the, the negation of freedom of going free emptiness really can be translated freedom or voidness is freedom. Voidness abundance. That is so freedom is emphasizing that. And then, uh, the, and so it's emphasizing the Bo part of B D Bo sort of blossoming budding, blooming, you know, like that. And then the D is the intelligence part of it, which is to be emphasized the magnificence of the relational world. Once you discover that it's kind of magic show that it's a magic play or like what Barbara Ramdas would say, it's a, it's a Mo a movie. Speaker 2 00:30:26 It's a, it's a movie you're in, you're in this play with all the Buddhas, you know, and, and you can alter the script, you know, to be, to make sure nobody's no bad guys, the bad guys lose the bad guys, become good guys. And, uh, and everybody ends up happy. You know, it's a comedy, it's a divine comedy sort of thing. So this, the second one is, is then to really elaborate that magnificence and the great suture of that, the collection of sutures of that is called the, uh, S Budha oft Sutra, which means the Budha flower, ornament, Sutra, meaning flower ornaments made of Buddhas or Buddha Garland Sutra. You could also call it, but yen Jing the Chinese translation of that yen Jing the yen literally is translatable as flower ornament, which means meaning weaving flowers into a Garland. And they, and it is of course, four yen Jing, but they sort of take for granted the Buda flower ornament, uh, uh, Sutra Ching means Sutra. Speaker 2 00:31:28 So, uh, therefore Thomas Clary brilliantly translated it into English all 15 1600 pages, which he sadly, my dear friend, Tom Clary passed away last year or last for part of this year. I've even lost track of the time because I've been reading in ZDA ever since. And it's been just, you know, captivating my mind and fascinating me. So anyway, what I wanna read is a specific section where the Bo Salba Sam Bandra, when Tom translates brilliantly, I think bud, as enlightening being, uh, and, uh, Samantha Badra is means universally good. Some means totally all around, you know, all around good, but he translates universal good or universally good. And, um, this enlightening hero or being is one of the great, one of the, what I notice in ma is the eight great Bo along with man a at Desani, um, and so on and, uh, mare and, and other Buda and, um, his specialty, you will see in this segment, I will read, which kind of shows that every atom is filled with enlightening energy infinitely to draw upon in a sort of relationally magnificent way, rather than just seeking to get its true nature by drilling through its false appearance, to find its, to find it, to be free from the false appearance and then reengage with its realistic illusory appearance. Speaker 2 00:33:08 Rather than that, it's showing the magnificent of the illusory appearance, which is an appearance you don't get away from. You play with you, enjoy, you redesign as an artist of life to benefit all beings included yourself. Okay. So this is book three or the third Sutra of the ACAR. Now the, the, the flower ornament occurs, uh, in the most of it, uh, when the Buddhas in, within the Buddhist first 49 days after enlightenment, according to the Chinese commentators and according to elements in the Sutra where, you know, in the sort of normal, um, dualistic or TETA Buddhism, or even in other kinds of Mariah Buddhism that are not so expansive, um, they sort of say the history is that Buddha just spent 49 days hanging out in the Grove in BOR Gaia under the tree where he was enjoying the bliss of being enlightened. And he was even not, he, it was not certain that he would go and teach everybody that gods had to come and make a special invitation bra. Speaker 2 00:34:16 The, the create the so-called creator, God, uh, who impact was not the creator. He, he mentions. But anyway, he, they come and invite and, and insist that the Budha does teach actually, which they always do with all Buddhas. But Buddha expressed a certain difference about teaching because on, in one hand, everybody already does know it and they're subconscious, but also their conscious has a hard time coming to learn, learn, and to understand often if they're not well educated to understand the reality of life like this, like I become a super scientist. Even every ordinary person is a super scientist, is the Buddhist view. You know, if they wanna bring that out within themselves. So, so this happens within the 49 days, like the Bardo of Buddha being kind of reborn from having been an individuated human, to being a Buddha, which is beyond human or non-human beyond human or beyond the wine. Speaker 2 00:35:13 It's some kind of inconceivable new thing <laugh> which we all can and will be given an infinity of time. It's a kind of infinite being something like that. One with all the other Buddhas, same as all other Buddhas, you know, which they see us as already being like that. But we don't, we have to learn to do it cuz of the way, way we relate to time and space okay. Out of our miss knowing. Okay. So this books read the meditation of the enlightening being universally good. I'm sorry. That's too much commentary, but this is to be read at the end. You can also have a version where you just have me read it and maybe you could develop a hand it out and read it together. Like we do with a heart surgery if you want, but I won't need to hit the, because the fish, the wonderful sound of the woods fish, I love it. Speaker 2 00:36:03 The fish is helping by its sharp sound to develop sharpness of mine, to break through the false vision of a, of reality to gain a truly enlightened vision of reality. Okay. Now we're playing with the simulation of the enlightened vision simulation and language of the enlightened vision. Okay. Okay. The enlightening being universally good. That's Samantha, Badra the great being. He, he likes to say, I say hero. He says being, but she, or I say shero, he, his being, but, and either one is okay. The great being sat on a lion throne made of a bank of Lotus flowers and imbued with the psychic power of the enlightened one. Again, Buddha's presence is around him, entered into concentration Samari that is, this concentration is called the imminent body of the illuminator of vastness. So it's kind of like the, I illumination of the profound of the Buddha in the heart suture, which is in all enlightened ones. Speaker 2 00:37:13 It enters everywhere into the equal essence of all enlightened ones and is capable of manifesting myriad images in the cosmos vastly and immensely without obstruction equal to space, all the whaling oceans of universes flow along into it, it produces all states of concentration and can contain all worlds in all directions. The oceans of lights of knowledge of all the enlightened ones come from here. It can reveal all the oceans of all conditions everywhere. It contains within it, all the powers and liberations of the enlightened ones and the knowledge of the enlightening beings. It can cause the particles of all lands to be universally able to contain boundless universities. So the subatomic particle is not only does it disappear under analysis, seeking it as a thing in itself, but as a relational thing, it contains universes. Every single Ptomic particle, it's not nothing <laugh>, ah, it develops the ocean of virtuous qualities of all Buddhas and reveals the ocean of great vows of these enlightened ones, all the cycles of teaching of the Buddhas flow through it and are guarded and maintained by it and kept without interruption or end. Speaker 2 00:38:29 As in this world, the enlightening being universally good entered this concentration in the presence of the world, honored one, the Baban that's in the same way throughout the realm of space of the cosmos in all directions and all times in a subtle unhindered, vastly expensive light in all lands, visible to the Buddhas eye within reach of the Buddhas power manifested by the Buddhas body and in each atom of all those lands, there were Buddhas as numerous as atoms in an ocean of worlds. And in front of each Buddha were, were universally good enlightening beings, numerous as atoms in an ocean of worlds each also entering into this concentration in the imminent body of the illuminator of vastness in enlight ones. You know, that means that everything you, you are not only the universally good, but cetera, but you, as you are now are equally present in other universes in every atom of this universe and in every atom of every atom of those universes, it's sad and fan item into the micro direct, never reaching nothing. Speaker 2 00:39:36 So whatever you do should be something that you are proud to feel replicated in infinite dimensions and infinite universes in a multiverse, in an inverse, you should be proud to do that. It's sort of like niche's idea of the eternal recurrence that they, that the, the enlightened person who she thought of as Zarathustra in his case, and the enlightened person is willing to do what he would be willing to repeat doing forever only, never do anything. He wouldn't be willing to keep doing forever. In other words, a wonderful idea, which is similar to this, although he did not know this Sutra, he had no idea that, okay. And then, and then a little more at that time, each of the universally good ones saw the Buddhas of the 10 directions appearing before them. Those Buddhas praised universally good in the same voice. Good, good universally. Speaker 2 00:40:33 Good. You are able to enter the enlightening beings concentration in the imminent body of the illuminator of thusness in all Buddha. This is fostered in you by all the Buddhas everywhere together by means of the power of the original vow of the illuminating realized one of IRO sh Buddha who sort of the heart of the heart of, uh, Shamo bud, all Buddhas actually, and the body of all buds. And it is also because you cultivate the power of the practices and vows of all buds. That is to say, because you can activate all the cycles of the enlightening teaching, revealing the ocean of knowledge and wisdom of all enlightened ones, universally illumine all the oceans of distinctions everywhere. Without exception caused CIN beings to clear away confusion and addiction and attain purity, universally accept all lands without attachment deeply into the sphere of all enlightened ones without impediment and universally expound the virtues and qualities of all enlightened ones, because you are able to enter into the true character of all things and develop knowledge and wisdom, analyze all the media of the teachings, comprehend the faculties of all living beings. Speaker 2 00:41:43 And because you are able to hold the ocean of written teachings of all the Buddhas at that time, all the Buddhas of the 10 directions then be so on the great enlightening SHEO universally good. The knowledge that enters into the power inherent in omniscience, the knowledge that enters into the infinity of the cosmos, the knowledge that perfects the realization of the sphere of all enlightened ones, the knowledge of the becoming in decay of all oceans of worlds, the knowledge of the full extent of the worlds of all Senti beings, the knowledge that abides in the extremely profound liberation of all enlightened ones and the non-discriminating knowledge of all meditation states, the knowledge that enters into the ocean of all faculties of enlightening beings, the knowledge of Allion to turn the wheel of the teaching and the ocean of all languages of all Senti beings, the knowledge that enters in all ways into the bodies of all oceans of worlds in the cosmos and the knowledge that comprehends the voices of all Buddhas. Speaker 2 00:42:43 As in this world, in the presence of the Buddha, the enlightening being universally good experience, the Buddhas bestowing, such knowledge. So in all oceans of worlds, as well as in each atom of all those worlds. So did all the enlightening beings, universally goods there experience this. Why? Because they had realized that stage of mental focus in this way, then the Buddhas of the 10 directions each extended his right hand and put patented universally good, his or her right hand and patted universally good on the head. Their hands were each adorned with the marks of greatness, being finely webbed, emanating, light, fragrance, and flames. They also produced the various wondrous tones of all Buddhas and within it were manifested the phenomena, mystical powers, the ocean of vows of universal goodness of all enlightening beings of past P and future the cycles of pure teachings, the cycles of pure teachings. Speaker 2 00:43:47 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Of anyway, the cycles of pure teachings. I, I should do a little more. Could you try? Because, because then it says the Budha, patted, uni, all the uni, all the Buddhas and all the atoms of all the universes and even all the atoms of all the atoms of all the universes and all the atoms. And so and so on Adam item and in NYEM the Budha patted, all the universally goods on the head and in all of those ways and all of those places. So it's like, you know, this is like sort of Buddha BTI. This is devotion to Buddhas and to all the Buddhas in yourself and in every atom of yourself are all universally goods. And you are also in all of those things. So then it's sort of, you're already practically there. If you knew time, if you knew the alliss of time in the future, you will know you will be universally good as idea yourself. Speaker 2 00:44:41 You won't necessarily be Buddhist, universally. Good. It's not necessarily a Buddhist, but he loves Buddhas. He's an enlighten, he's a post Buddha enlightening being enlightening shero. And there's a Samantha Badra Samantha Padre, female, and a male one too. So it's a vision like that. And this would be good to read up to the head pat. So you can kind of feel the pat of all the buds on all the atoms in your head where they're all infinite numbers of buds and, and universally good enlightening shees enlightening beings, enlightening heroes. Okay. So we dedicate the merit. The all beings become like Samantha universally. Good. Samantha Badra like the bud Viro of the shining solar Buddha like SHA bud may, all beings become bud equal to all of them and may rejoin them as one of the Buddhas. And may we do everything to help them become that? We so dedicate the merit of not only this concluding thing to read at the end of class, but also the, uh, whole of the class and all that we learned in practice that chained and also the vision of matter avoidance fores matter. And they got, they got Speaker 3 00:46:13 Episode of Thurmond podcast was recorded for the online and in person yoga teacher trainings to learn more about this wonderful program. Beginning this October, please visit menlo.org and Bob Thurman dot. This podcast is brought to you in part to the generous support for the Tibet house, us men, the membership community, and listeners like you to learn more about how to support this podcast by becoming a member, please visit our [email protected], menlo.org and Bob thurman.com. The podcast is produced under creative commons, no derivatives license, please feel free to share like and repost on your favorite social media platforms. Music for the Bob Thurman podcast is generously supplied by tensing Showga to learn more about the music and work of tensing Showga please visit his website at tensing Cho com Tashi de and thanks for tuning in.

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