Episode Transcript
Speaker 1 00:00:14 Welcome to my Bob Thurman podcast. I'm so grateful and some good trends enabled me to present them to you. If you enjoy him and find it useful, please think of becoming a member of Tibet house us to help preserve Tibetan culture. If that house is the Dalai Lamas cultural center in America, All best wishes. Have a great day.
Speaker 2 00:00:48 This is episode 277 expressing gratitude, compassion and generosity.
Speaker 3 00:01:15 I have been noticing as shack was on the ball when he said aging is a pain, boy, was he right? This little thing goes wrong and that little thing goes wrong. And then it's really kind of a pain to deal with it all. But I am an activist and part of my meditation is being an activist. And you realize if you realize about the bodhisattva path, that you're never alone, you know, if there's a duality among spiritual people, I'm going to be alone. I'm going to meditate. You're on retreat. I'm not going to talk to anyone. Just pray. Totally invisible. Well, if you want to get anywhere with that, you have to acknowledge ahead of time. Did you are total nexus of interaction with all the beams that you know, and tons of things that you don't know, but you did know in previous lives and are totally interwoven with you because there's no solid core of identity within any of us that is totally separate from everyone else.
Speaker 3 00:02:27 There's no such thing. That's what we're lacking. That's why we're called selfless. We're still totally self because we're here and we're doing our bitch and it feels like we're here. And so we're a little bit illusory. We're magical because in reality, we only construct that with our pronouns, with our language, with our creativity, with our love for beings, meaning our, our radiation of happiness or feeling of it and radiating it. And the more we read it, the more we feel it. If we tried to stop reading it so we can feel we stopped feeling it because we're all interacting with everyone else all the time. Okay? So therefore being an activist is part of our meditation. We are voting while sitting on our pillow and then we get up. When we get up and walk to the voting booth or to getting to the voting booth past destruction of voting, I'm going to follow the permission given by my editor, the wonderful petty here to payouts internationals.
Speaker 3 00:03:41 They're great. The greatest editor, her were, her name is so perfect. Her parents were prophetic and make goals for Patty gift, where she is a gift to humanity. And certainly to me and I'm giving thanks to her because it saves to her that my book wisdom is bliss. And even that I have that time, or would you use to be Burrus, have more fun, which would have been feeling too exclusive to other people. People who think they're not like me. So I only have more fun when I talk about it because I talk myself into having more fun usually than our worry. That's why I'm an activist because I can't, we can't sit around worrying because if we do and we'll get angry and mad and frustrated, and then we will be very ineffective as activists, we will be effective as activists when we're happy, jolly, and cheery, which is what we have to be.
Speaker 3 00:04:45 And we have to try to be that just by talking, not by drinking, probably getting still only are we getting addicted? Not by any special thing by watching no Netflix, no, all of that is good, but we will be happy when we think about how happiness is the only solution for the misery. So I want to give sex. I want to give, thanks for cop 26, 4. We're going to say wonderful thing in our kind of doubt or publication that I have, which I'm more than thankful. Be thankful. I'm thankful to the guardian. I'm thankful to their economist in England, coming from England. I'm not thankful to the spectator coming from London. I'm thankful to the Washington spectator edited by her. My dear friend, ham Hamilton fish, to whom I am thankful and his wife and family thankful to all of them, thankful to all of you for being here to listen to this. Thankfully, Justin, my engineer, who arranged for me to record this on Riverside, I'm thankful to my children, my grandchildren, for some, my beloved consort and my pause to get an Ana have fun slavery, Thurman, all these names she has that are not really her name, but she has many names. She'd be all names. She's wished for Marta. She's the multifarious mother and she's my dear friend. And I'm very thankful to her, thankful to my .
Speaker 3 00:06:27 I'm thankful to his go-tos was my group limited. Her chair was kind of a group. So is a little remote to him for some wrong reasons, which I love him. It was very beautiful. Like I couldn't, I didn't want to make him unhappy. So I wasn't too close to him. And, uh, I'm thankful to all the lineage of many gurus, I'm thankful to your tea. I'm thankful to and Robbie Savara who have introduced me to how would our Dharma because of their great sedans. She's a death in India thousand years ago when it was destroyed in the monastic for, in this monastic form in India, sadly, by some silly people who are just too nervous or whatever they wanted to melt all the golden Buddha statues. And, um, I, but I'm thankful to them anyway, because they pump us up. They help pump up to bed, thankful to the dialogue thing, all the lineage in Tibet, in India.
Speaker 3 00:07:34 And I'm thankful to all the grids here to people in Christianity and Taoism and Hinduism invasion to visit in Shaivism and Shaktism and all this Sikhism and all the wonderful religions and Judaism and Islam that generated themselves from reality, from the loving, clear light, infinite bliss. That is reality. I'm thankful to call a chakra with our Kala chakra as the wheel of history. The wheel of time, the wheel of magical display of history will help us find our Buddhahood. All of us, all the animals, all the microbes, even the viruses are going to be that making it. They're going to be helping people, not making them unhappy, thankful to all of that. And also I want to give everything to everybody. If I could, I try to give as much as I can whenever I want to give all the time, I'm very grateful and thankful to all the generous people.
Speaker 3 00:08:43 I'm totally pro billionaire. By the way, all you left is I'm thankful to lefties for criticizing everybody else and seeking equality and sharing with everyone to share everything. I'm really glad about that, but you shouldn't be mad at the billionaires. You shouldn't be mad even at the oligarchs because they actually got that way because of great generosity they had in previous lives and underlying general, Vince got buried under the idea that they just so frustrated that other people are not generous enough. They want to accumulate themselves so they can give it all away. And they want to compete with others to be more able to be more generous with it. But then they get stuck and accumulate anymore and they don't get around to giving and they get stuck there and we must feel very sympathetic to them. Then if they don't get stuck and they do have teachers teaching them.
Speaker 3 00:09:37 My favorite nowadays is the great Mackenzie. Scott, who I read her novels. I read her blogs. I want her to get shit. I love that. How she's giving an it's just, I have one proposal. I don't want anything myself. That's where I can publicly say what I want to do. Give this. I wanted to give to the bright money. Sans fun to be activists in a different way. Not just sustain, not just, oh, just bless your eyes. But to actually give money, fire break, to stop the black money, dark rather dark money, fire break. I want a bright money. Firebreak against a dark money forest fire. It has tripled. Our government is still crippling our government. And I hope she hears me somehow, please, somebody you heard the clue to listen to this idea so that we can outbid the dark money with all those who sold out to the dark money.
Speaker 3 00:10:41 So as we can get a plan, a level playing field, so we can then pass rules where no money gets involved in democracy. And we shouldn't straighten out the demanded Supreme court with that citizens into your mind, which you should be there. You have to put a provision provision in the Supreme court, which we can with the level playing field of the bright money, people being reasonable, that they can be in Peachtree irrationality. They're supposed to be judges. Therefore they're supposed to be rational. It cannot do irrational things like claim that corporations formed by a bodies of people who seek to shelter, their personal finance of their family and themselves to create, to be able to take entrepreneurial risk. And you're always to be creative in business, which is a great way of grading wealth for everyone. Businesses are don't be against business. It's great stop.
Speaker 3 00:11:40 But then irrationally, such a corporation where individual assets are shielded to create risk, taking ability can then act like they're an individual person with an asset. If they're there, they're heard their money of the corporation is free speech. That's not true. That's irrational. They sought the status of a corporation and became very powerful. Your shield personal that's definitely can be in person. It's not fair. Okay. Is it individuals they can personally, or to corporation itself is not an individual that was never, I must say they didn't irrationally do that. That was done 19 85, 18 95 Supreme court irrational judge who allowed the some railway to be considered an individual in a court case. Some kind of story like that.
Speaker 3 00:12:37 You get around the fact that the framers had corporations incorporated by skates, not by the federal government. So the states can locally look at them and what they're doing. If it's harming the environment, it's harming the community and they can control them. So people can take risks, but they can't take robbery, risks, harmful risks. They can't become pirates. And then this was on done since the civil war and the power corporations are expanding the robber barons and so on. So that then they could hire all these lawyers, create all these law schools at high-roller who lawyers to undo the intent of the framers that they'd be held accountable every year as to their externalities. Now, actually some of them enough, a lot of them are voluntarily going back to taking care of externalities led by the great Paul Pullman for whom I'm grateful that I give thanks that he had no externalities in his, you know, level corporate issue became more profitable actually because they were not playing dirty pool and dumping their externalities.
Speaker 3 00:13:52 That means their resource acquisition, destructiveness and their pollution destructiveness. Those are externalities. So they made a profit by making everybody else paid for those things. It's like how Amazon and Walmart until recently, or they're paid their employees, knowing that the points would stay alive by going on the public food stamps and other things. So they made us pay through our Texas to bring their, their, their livelihood up so they could underpay them that they should not be allowed to do no, no, no. While also moving their own tax base off shore and cheating on their own taxes. I'm sorry. Cause of all those lawyers and accountants. No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 00:14:38 That's not reasonable. Not rational because still make lots of money without going completely wacky and doing it in a harmful way. Okay. No, in their wonderful son got his spot is up a Boomi. He draws from Buddha's teaching the sutras that a merchant because Buddha favored the merchants. By the way, you should know this in widened and most enlightened one in our history or the who set up the possibility for the many varied equally enlightened ones will follow that way. And we each can become one of them. And that's what I wanted. He didn't want to Lord it over us. Anyway, this lightened one said that a business person to start off a profit, like they start a mattress factory in a village instead of just shipping their cotton to the county seat and selling it as raw material, they can create a mattress factory in that village.
Speaker 3 00:15:39 And while they're creating that mattress for the extra costs of marketing transport, they can pay their employees well, building it up while enlisting them in the mission of developing a mattress factory of adding value in the village to keep more value for the cotton in the village, by manufacturing a product that can be sold for more than just the cost of the cotton. Okay. But then once they are making a profit and they're well-established, and they can no longer underpaid their employees independent cause then is no longer, that's no longer the mission. So then their village workers become partners of a kind. Then necessarily as much as the original creator still gold jurors will be grateful to that creator or they'll leave better than they were just shipping the coffee or take care of the underpaid. Then we'll continue to exploit and then it becomes harmful to follow.
Speaker 3 00:16:40 And then the village does have the right of reboot revolting, striking against the elk or the Buddhist not be harmful or precepts intending to favor why they favored merchants and business people. Because the alternative before that were the warriors, the Kings, the soldiers with the professional armies and the city states and their way of creating wealth and Rob the neighboring one by conquering that city and then exporting their workers in therapy and killing people along the way. And so, you know, that's worse than business because a business person goes in trades and they try to get a better deal, the neighboring city state, and then try to, you know, do well and then negotiate. They drink tea and bargain, but each time it's something military, what it is. You take everything at once and then they're not there. You killed your customer. You're deprived your customer so badly.
Speaker 3 00:17:45 They have nothing to trade with you next year or next month, next week. And therefore it has a destructive side to it, but they were the more powerful ones in Berlin's time. The city state warlord, Kings, and armies, and with the iron weapons and so forth, and the however betrayed his own birds cast or plants because he saw that they were headed for harmful harmful after the election. And he favored the merchant. And then of course, he saw that there you're gonna become a self-made gain wealth by intelligence and by giving something to your customer and, uh, and being creative. And that was like how you could rise above your classroom intelligence, through learning through education and become enlightened. Even if you were not a priest, the Brahman, the high holy person in something, or a warrior king Napster, you know, which for classes were like that.
Speaker 3 00:18:52 But even a German class for peasant clouds, artists in class, you could, some of you there, if you're a woman, you couldn't just be happy to be a slave in the household, bearing children, cooking food, planting, gardening, causing, you know, stroking the egos of the, of the, of the turbulent males. You know, you could become an enlightened free person yourself as a woman instituted all those beginning offsets. He's still not fully perfected on the planet, but we're getting there thankful to all of those who work on it today right now. So did you mention under sent, Joel mentioned wants to support the reconciliation. They're all highly watered down by him, but he still wants you to support it, which will be helpful in help the leveling process. And it puts pressure on the last suitable person, Kristen, who should be very happy, important person. We need her how she should be enjoying her original backers who saw her as a liberal.
Speaker 3 00:20:02 She wasn't liberal. Something has happened in her life. She has become disillusioned. She's decided to sell your services to the higher bidder rather than to the voters. She'll lose out in the long run that way. We don't want her to lose out with all her handsome. Nice. I like the way she dresses. She should be friendly the school out and sell rather than acting like somehow holier than thou about it. She will see the light, please. It is globally important, not just locally important. America must take the lead in the climate shifts. Listen that Joe who owns coal mines is standing there trying to slow down of course, or keep you stable is standing there. You really should join. Would you want to? We love you. We will. We won't harass you your own selling and sell. If you don't bite your nose to spite your face, because something happened to you since you were first running as a progressive person, something happened along the way to this illusion, you and please rejoin us, rejoined the positive people that saved the democracy.
Speaker 3 00:21:20 Okay, let's put you. And then, uh, then Chuck and you guys put through like the, your opponents did for the judges that they appointed, create a rule, that there will be no filibustering bills that have to do with keeping clean voting process, stopping the gerrymandering, stopping the destructive destruction of their democratic process. Make people vote equally liberally and realize that they have to compete by doing things for the people. They can't compete by being backed by the dark money forever. I have been doing that since 1980, since Reagan, not just like they have, but they all can't rely on them. It will not work. And it is globally important. It is.
Speaker 3 00:22:19 They impeach Nixon because the cold war was still going on. And then they had a state, even not being real conservative. They had a stake to try to be nice on all levels to sort of show up better than the communist, right. Which were really communist. They rude dictatorships. Okay. So it isn't like the capitalist comments paddle it's over a preserver. It's a capitalist. No it's still going on because it never was a communist. Capitalist never was a socialist capitalist thing or continents have never was. It was a dictatorship democracy thing. That's what it was. And it still is a dictatorship tomorrow. Then the should pretend to democracy in Chinese to deceive us up until just recently pretended they were beginning to learn to vote. They invited people from Harvard to try to teach them how to do law and have impartial justice, but they didn't notice party.
Speaker 3 00:23:21 The dictator in party comments, party, which is just a dictatorship. They're not communist or gangster dictatorship. Okay. The KGB didn't let Russia go toward democracy as it started, but they pretend to it again until recently that's your cause. They reached your name game. We're still in that, in those end game moments. And the moment you have to understand to be compassionate for protein and she's in pain and the seven member Miro, seven member power bureau who was members, at least one of whom feel privileged to be able to forcibly sexualize their tennis stars with their own bodies. People are owned by this gangster democracy, tyrannical state, nothing to do with Karl Marx. Well dictators stupid expression that he had angles made more, not, not really no noting and human nature. That once you have dictatorship of anything, it is dictatorship.
Speaker 3 00:24:27 And the problem there is that when they do date, he started wrecking the place because they don't really know that's going on because they're near the dictator. Everybody's afraid of you lied to you. And then that, that resonates down the chain. That's what everybody's underlaying is distorting reality to the one above to try to create themselves and show good for your time. It gets way up there. You don't really know what's really going on. You said you didn't get away with suppressing 1.3 billion people. 1.4 billion people. Maybe more than that. You think you're saying, yeah, we've got the technique and technology. We have the scale. We have the information we can control it. We have the 1 million bloggers, 1 million suppose in free internet bloggers who just loved the state. They loved nationalism. They love being impressed because they're Chinese.
Speaker 3 00:25:30 They're Russians. No, no human being likes being in the Politburo. There's one boss on the threat of life and death over them from the mega boss. The malware figure. No you don't. So just look at your own nature. You want to be oppressed yourself. You don't, you're there for your power because you're scared of being oppressed. So what makes you think you're getting away with oppressing you and the short term? Okay. Okay. Look at Hitler because you're German, they had a beautiful social machine, beautiful people, Mozart Beethoven. Fantastic, great machinery, Mercedes, tremendous hard worker, great language, beautiful. A poetry. Gotcha. Okay. Okay. They need to be suppressed. That they're dramatic. We have a lot of psychiatrists talking about how they need to be spread the way they play with friends with them.
Speaker 3 00:26:41 But once it gets suppressed and have a dictator, what happened 13 years, the entire country were destroyed. They behave terribly everyone else. Okay. So then addicted, democratic people tried to be democratic in Europe, in America, they made, they helped you in Germany. They put it in democratic chairman. It got very democratic dictatorship, proletariat, and the giant added like an empire and that, but the triads, the gangsters were able to become the what's and then they were constrained by Confucianism with no, no, these guys have one Western, so absolute dictatorship of a communist party. Great. And now we're up against that. All right. And in fact, we're, it's like the time of his or her, uh, you know, maybe a Roosevelt was centered Churchill to accurate dictatorial in America or in England or wherever in France, you know, anybody who was trying to oppose the dictatorship, communist, dictatorship, acting, pretending they were going to be nicer to the people who are going to have to resist.
Speaker 3 00:28:07 Sure. So now we're having a cold war for having a call and you know, say, let's say that the dark money people one, okay. Koch brothers, Mercers, you know, maybe a few Silicon valley oligarchy types. Let's say they were seeing that, you know, 10, most intelligent people should run things. You know, they're the smartest and they, they shouldn't broke anybody, like criticizing him. Okay. I won't name names here in America, but there are some people who feel that. Yeah. Okay. Say the old one then what do you does any of them actually think that protein likes Xi Jinping and she's in pink, likes Putin. Does anybody seeing that? Any of them like Bashar al-Assad? Does any of them like Assad, Assad, you know, the horrible her to short his own country to Quito, keep ownership of it, whatever his name, that Assad or the former optician optometrist or whatever it was.
Speaker 3 00:29:14 Does anybody think that run, who thinks he's assaulted? And the Caleb likes Putin? So if we got a dictator in America, say Trump had become, say 60 succeeded, or he comes back and succeeds to be our dictator sort of orange. One with Eridu is he really liked Putin Putin. Do you think potent XP likes him once they in charge of all the people and there was no democracy left anywhere, which one are they going to choose to fight against first, they start competing with each other in their fear of him because they're used to of afraid of everybody. See, the key thing is the dictator becomes afraid of his own people.
Speaker 3 00:30:02 So then he has to have enemies somewhere. If they win against their own people, by being completely overpowering, all of them at whatever scale, you know, small tinpot dictator, even the household and the family, then they have to have a enemy outside. The family had fields to have the McCoys, to keep all the junior Hatfields until like lock step, ready to shoot or diet for the cause. And the women should shut up and don't talk to us. We're going to go shoot somebody today. Okay. So that way, if there's not the human way to live and therefore there's no end to that, but mutual destruction, there's no really become one Monarch conquering everybody. It just never can happen because they're too much destructive of their own place, wherever they rule. You know, if she's in pain, for example, and I never were to attack Taiwan against the plan of the others to just gradually absorb it or be absorbed, which in a way was ended, would have ended up being absorbed by it.
Speaker 3 00:31:07 If they really kept you, the, they kept you there pretenses that don't shout pain did that. Oh yes. Invite guys from Harvard law school to teach law, to start having the local village communes do elections of the head. Man, have the head men get together to elect a local provincial root kid thing. Instead of having a communist party member telling everybody what to do, they pretended to fool us to fall the Bush family, particularly as the ones they'd fall to follow the Bush family, Bush senior, especially and kissing her and saying, we're going to go democratic one upon gaining wealth, you know, robbing our intellectual property, imitating our, everything, imitating our nukes, even, you know, uh, rational ones that they then would be nice. That's didn't happen like that. It never would happen, right? That when they were weaker, we could have been stronger in the human rights.
Speaker 3 00:32:04 And you know, the educated leadership in a better way, by being more Sherman, less greedy ourselves and not let our own would be our guards just dictate the terms and export all our impoverish, our country and explored all our, uh, union jobs and equality within our own society, which is what we did full by our own would be our learners. So now we have the last chance to reverse that. We have, we have a good chance reverse that. And I want to now be thankful, I'm sorry, coming back from this history lesson, but I hope you can get the point that the dictator, the dictator is afraid of the people closest to them. Do you know what, like she's your paying who is most scared of in the whole world, Joe Biden? No. Put you in a bit. Yes, but otherwise not much. You know, he's scared of the seven members of the standing committee of the Politburo and the people behind each one of them.
Speaker 3 00:33:09 So that's the person who's most scared of. Cause they're the ones who could overthrow him. Okay. He thinks cause they have, they almost sharing in his power. So I could feed back on him. It's like Khrushchev, after Silen died, you know, he kept killing everybody nearby him. Like mouth kept killing everybody nearby him, Lucia, Archie, et cetera. The sofa would be so, you know, success or it gets pruned. That's how dictators they become because it's against human nature to be unfriendly to everybody, to be harmful to people. And you feel, you feel bad when you harm somebody. And then if you build that up by harming in the millions, you become completely desensitized and alcoholic or something and you just become crazed and then you forward your shadow and that makes you completely unfit to be sensible and to have any good time yourself. If you have anybody new, you have a good time till you become a hundred because you become demonic.
Speaker 3 00:34:19 That's how you get to be a demon, but then you can't stay human and do that now because you'll die soon because people who will hate you. Okay. You'll know that you'll keep purging them near as often as you can playing games against one against the other. But we've all worked for long because our human nature is, you know, really we Merced at abreast for you here for a year or two normal times. We don't just stab the nipple and milk the blood and milk out of it on one shot, the mother's dead. So you can live like human beings, not equipped too sensitive, too intelligent to fun, loving to happy, then I've lied. All right. So I'm grateful to Joe Biden. He played in a hierarchical thing. Although he was, you know, playing along was with other, we feel that kids kept level. Cause the big enemy was all projected onto communism, worldwide communism.
Speaker 3 00:35:37 Okay. So there, we were trying to show, we had some nice side to ourselves and we really did there. You know, we, we, we shaped it and made it, but then some people weren't contend with that. So they kind of started Goldwater Reagan. They corrupted that party, the conservative party got corrupted into a radical righteous projo fascist party. Whichever it is, there are close edge of that. Now someone like Bannon is counting on that's here. He's going to defy the courts, even he thinks, okay. So I think it was Joe Biden. Then Joe Biden came out of retirement, actually having been vice president. And didn't in a paralyzed presidency, did a couple of good things in two years and then more great things as much as it could from the basis of being paralyzed from two 10 on pretty much paralyzed by, by dark money control Congress, they couldn't get much done very last two years, they cut back to house, but couldn't really McConnell was able to stop them from getting anything real tough.
Speaker 3 00:36:50 No foolishly think business in Africa, instead of doing, being sensible about that. And it told us that it could be we're good if we had been happy and I learned how to have fun and dealt with the Pakistanis backed by the Chinese, who was a real enemy in parks in Afghanistan, not in Columbine Taliban, Pakistani maneuver Indians could have explained to us if we could have listened to Joe Biden. And he did great things. And my dear friend, Heather Cox Richardson, who isn't chicken, who does his entire life like me and has a grid subset going recommend to everyone has their Cox Richardson. Her thing on American history and contemporary situation is unmatched. It's just fabulous. And I, my own activism is inspired entirely by her and she pointed out how it's very tragic. Some someone has written look at her, sing on Thanksgiving, look at her such stack postings on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 00:37:58 You will see a reference to a wonderful article by someone who showed how media are kind of too corrupted by dark money themselves to let Joe Biden give credit where credit is due. So they aren't officially not blinding the masses temperature. What is being done for them? Finally, after 40 years of nothing being done for them, rebel templates become relevant very little time for them periods of nothing, armed them to them and then periods of little bit, but car out power politically done for them. You know, Clinton, Obama, Carter, Clinton Obama. So, so, and that's never been a Democrat and Republican because Republicans stopped being Republicans gradual. Then they were subverted from within. We want real Republicans, a hundred percent. We want two Republicans. The Democrats need Republicans. It's like, we were good in the colo. We had what we thought was a real opposition of some dictatorships.
Speaker 3 00:39:15 They may pretend that we conquered them because they became more openly capitalistic and sort of wrapping us. And then, and so, and, and we don't realize we've been in a cold war since then, no losing it. And we have to realize that we're at war democracy versus dictatorships. That's the war. It's an information war. Luckily it's not a nuclear war. Pretty could be. It will only be nuclear. If got where everybody was a dictator, if there was no democratic opposition to the dictators that day, they will be accountable to them. Never have nuclear. Each other. Believe me, there cannot be a nuclear horse. As long as one side will not do it because they enjoy life. They are there. They are not church, strange ones who will go for the strange, and that must be us and Europe and Japan from now. And India must be, even though we are, we must, we must be more open about how we would never use it. First strike ever.
Speaker 3 00:40:27 This will help begin the disarming. Then we must not hate proton and she's jumping and these kinds of people, but we must help them retire gracefully like, like Marcos was able to do other than kill their keynote lady there, we must help them as sad must be given a really glorious retirement so that we can rebuild that country. The world can rebuild it and have the, have the wonderful Syrian people back without it being controlled by such an awful person, but not too. But then he let him be rehabilitated in a nice way, in a very comfortable, pleasant way, feeling happy and feeling on paranoid on the beach there in the Mediterranean, where are they? Where are they allowing people actually locally live? Because their way of who should have done that from the beginning would help us do it. And then we can, then we can have mercy on people.
Speaker 3 00:41:37 And I want to say Biden. And he got chipped, especially because it looked like it was his fault that they gone. The thing ended so badly, but it wasn't. It was the fault of various people who didn't listen to him. I remember even back in the rock, although he did play along then he was head of Senate foreign relations and he did play along the invasion of Iraq, which was real evil deed by our own wine would be oligarchy, complete crime, nothing good about mistake. But he, I remember he was one of those who said at the time that we shouldn't be messing with that Iraq and that Iraq should be three countries and then they would make peace amongst themselves. So it should be a shield south connected to Iran. There should be a SUNY west and north west connected to Jordan Saudi Arabia, and there should be a Lebanon and there should be a, um, curd.
Speaker 3 00:42:59 No, if he is connected to the Kurdish minorities in Turkey and, um, federated with Kurdish minority in Turkey, incursion already in Iran, Turkey, minority in Syria, and then did he should get them rich, restore the middle east to more close to their tribal identities, you know, before and let them federate with business, you know, commercially, uh, getting past being militarized tribes. Uh, and that's the way to peace in the middle east. That's the way it feeds not trying to preserve stupid anti tribal lines drawn by colonialists, such as Iraq and Iran. Remember Joe Biden had the good sense to know that can, should have the good sense to move that Afghanistan and Pakistan are wrong constructions because they are leftovers of the India of the British rule of India. And the Pashtuns is one unit and it's part of it in Pakistan and part of it in Afghanistan.
Speaker 3 00:44:06 And it should be one local federated entity, federated to India, federated who I've heard through the Tajiks. And how's that I was in the other ethnicity, ethnicities in our family's town so that you don't have this internal tension there. And therefore, and you don't have the stake by a fellow style because of not wanting their own questions. So have more Liberty from within their nation so-called nation, having more of a Federation and more local read. That's the way of the post colonial world is local control localism kind of localism, but yet without fighting for it in violent way for localism buttressed, by really strong commerce, which actually Curtis Tom and alphabet and Iraq was doing effectively. They only liked us for able to do that. And then we left in our bedroom. Our bad guy betrayed them in Syria. Let's it? Kirk Turks. I've never mind that it's a long story, but it's very raw.
Speaker 3 00:45:15 But by the end of the sentence, this is all gratitude for Joe Biden. Violin got money into people's pockets, 30 and 65, 60 billion money back to the people pledged to co-lead unions return in America, Biden pledged to cut the oil subsidy. In fact, he's doing his best to do it. Violin is working with Bernie Biden was to work with the progressive, but he's happy that the progressive sort of like pushing and pulling, you know, because the dark money is in there. Even in the democratic party, he knows that when you lose, it's taken over the Republican party, but he did notice that some Republicans want to be Republicans where he hasn't given up. We need them to be Republicans not to be total Trump fascists. We don't want that. They were scared by the pro-Trump Trump crashes, but we must work within backed by being strong, to get them to come back.
Speaker 3 00:46:24 And Biden news is trying to do that. The real bride money Mackenzie is not from any individual because no individual, even Jeff, even you even, even Google owners, Sarah, nobody has that much money. If you compare it with the basic, real bright money people, which is the government trillions, okay. Personally, supposedly wielded by the representatives of the people. That's the glory of commerce back democracy, democracy, backing level, playing field commerce. That is the hope for the planet. It's the hopes of joy is the hope for beauty is the hope for education is the hope for freedom. That's what we need everywhere. Chinese people want it. Look how they happened in Taiwan and Hong Kong. They were having it happily. They were embarrassing to the dictator who wants to convince everybody that dictatorship is best nonsense it's so self-destructive dictatorships throughout history. There's been self-destructive and these modern dictatorships that are not controlled by any kind of, sort of nice sanctified theory of kingship or Zara ship or emperor ship.
Speaker 3 00:47:50 Yeah, well the emperor has to be humble and serve the people just to be a novelist. We brought up properly, although it gets weak. Every few generations by boil breaths, becoming emperor is thought plateau. That's what democracy is actually better, but still even the old system was even bit better, but not better enough for the modern system where democracy plowed wide is a central and commerce as go with level playing field commerce, where you will still have extreme wealth and extreme poverty, but not super extreme and massive poverty that we won't have, but that's not needed anyway. You don't need that.
Speaker 3 00:48:35 Imagine she that's where the bright money is now. W oh, cop 26. They did. Thank you, Joe, for going there. Thank you for pledging this Joe Biden. Thanks to you. We are thanking you this my Thanksgiving to you who did so great. And you're doing so great and you have to keep it up and don't get freaked out and don't and people supporting you. Shouldn't be freaked out and we need get some free media back. We need more power to the free media. We want to liberate the media where you against some other people. We need real free people to counter this. Okay? So we need to outbid the photo, fascist media people or you. Well, we do. Okay. So thanks to all of you for listening and thanks to everyone. We are all one vast human family. As the Dalai Lama says, Republicans, fascists, rulers.
Speaker 3 00:49:49 They were still our family. They're the meanest guys. They had the most grumpy, I don't know, they just machine gun, the whole herd of turkeys. So nobody could hear the joyful, joyful one. They won't. But imagine if we have these, these bright money governments everywhere, how many trillion dollars without discussion are being spent on military weapons right now and the arms trade and in varying to fight neighbor 7 trillion without discussion where are being spent in the us alone. And then nobody discussed. And they were unanimously supported by both houses of fibers because that fits with the dark money fear because the fear be ruled by other dictators. And then in time dictator, instead of being afraid of our dictator, which is our closest one to us to make us miserable, create a police state in our own place instead of having a fun FreeState. Okay.
Speaker 3 00:51:05 That's our greatest danger. Thank you, Amy Goodman. Thank you, dear Amy, Noam Chomsky. Thank you. But, but your point is, imagine if everybody in all of these governments were even as dictators, if they would recognize the biggest enemy to everyone is the weather is the global overheating, not warming overheating, and therefore it's a military priorities, a defense priority. So then the members of this dictator Royal cast would say, okay, 7 trillion. We have pledged to if heads, well, let's take 2 trillion this year. That would be one third. Let's take 30% of it. And let's say every single government pledged and even the poor countries, the ones that bought a hundred billion from us from co India, China, you know, supposedly the poor countries, Africa, but then those dictators in those countries, they were spending how much on weapons.
Speaker 3 00:52:23 Sure. They should not spend dependent. They won't get any subsidy from us to go to go clean solar renewable. They won't get a penny unless they stop spending any money on weapons. And we won't. We will take what are not reasonable. They take 30% of their military budget. We'll take 30% of, or I should take 30% Chinese, take 30% of your military budget. You know, that would be hardest for us. We have the biggest, huge, stupid, we all take 20%. And that all goes into renewables. And from dad, we have four or 500 billion to give to the countries that are burning too much coal that are, that are, you know, desperate because of grad, but, and they're suffering worst for the global change. Magine we spent hundreds of millions. If you give them interim nukes for their big cities, that don't create a lot of pollution stopping their cold pollution.
Speaker 3 00:53:27 And, you know, look at, look at this. There's a lot of studies of that. Sorry. I know that sacrilege to Greenpeace everybody, cause you expect only the big ugly MOOCs, but we're not talking about that. We're talking about tiny little ones to bridge saying as far we slowly build things out, okay. Stopping the call, stopping oil right away using the engineering expertise of all it's invested in the vast infrastructure, best petroleum Petro infrastructure to create these small nukes, small notion of the Saudis can desalinate and start growing gardens in their desert. So they'll stop selling oil. Okay. Iranians also give them such power. All right. Thank you, Joe. We're going to sing your praises and we're thanking you for keeping it up and don't be discouraged and TIG taking your vitamins. Okay. And come up here to be more active. Come on. Don't be scared of the anti-feminist anti racist thing. Giving being used badly by your opponents. Let her out there to take the brunt of it, to deal with it, to overmastering to kick them out on it, to bring a sense of humor. Come up. Don't show him battled the man power to heal glory to you. Money payment home. May God bless you. Bless you. Bless you. May the secularist bless you, scientists bless you. Okay. Well man, in Padma home,
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