Speaker 1 00:00:14 Welcome to my Bob Thurman podcast. I'm so grateful. Some good friend enabled me to present them to you. If you enjoy them and find them useful, please think of becoming a member of Tibet house us to help preserve Tibetan culture. Tibet house is the Lamas cultural center in America. All best wishes. Have a great day.
Speaker 2 00:00:48 This is episode 291 remembering win Bruce Maga and climate gorillas
Speaker 1 00:01:17 Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow creeps in this petty paste from day today until all syllables have recorded time. That's a wonderful, wonderful Trump to, and Creta Shakespeare's great play actually, Amelia bat's great play written under the name of Shakespeare.
Speaker 1 00:01:43 Another one where Achilles is, is behaving himself, doing something as he's supposed to. And then Uly says to him, time has a wallet at its back wherein he puts arms for eternity. I love that. I always love that. Great. Okay. So, um, hello? Good. No good morning. Good evening. Good night. Good day. Good day, mate. Uh, greetings to all of you. I'm very happy to speak on this time. As we are approaching the new moon of May 1st, where we will be congratulating all of those who, who speak courageously power truth to power, and there was brave Russians who speak against the Cator Putins, uh, oligarchy cracy against their completely willful and destructive and demonic actually invasion of peaceful Ukraine.
Speaker 1 00:02:49 I am sitting behind in front of the colors of Ukraine, yellow and blue. Yellow is the color of prosperity in the mandalas of the Buddhas of finding and making enough for all feeding all hungry beings, giving them the means with which to learn and to become free and to become Buddhas become enlightened and free and loving and compassionate to others and create mutually such compassionate at societies and blue is the color of sky and is the color of the wisdom that knows the reality of all things is goodness is happiness is freedom and therefore knows that there's a reason for the prosperity to enable beings to thrive so that they can then concentrate on the reality. And they can realize that thriving is what reality has for them, because reality, the most greatest power in reality are not the creator of it because no one single being created of it by themselves.
Speaker 1 00:03:57 Everyone's creation of it because is they only create realities to play with each other to out of love for each other. Love is the reason is the creator is the creation, not a person, not a man, not a woman, not a human, not a God, not a animal, a it is pure love. It is the nature of reality of wanting everyone to have everything of seeing everyone as capable of having, being capable, to provide everything to everyone. That's true love as being happiness, able to share itself. So overwhelmingly blisful, it is not bad, not, not harmful. All evil and harm comes from our confusion, our sense of separateness, our refusal to embrace the bliss and happiness of reality. And that's the reality of death as well as life. Death is only the moment where we have totally open to all of it, totally let go of everything. And then it automatically then produce this new, joyful, loving structure. If we could really embrace it all, doesn't impede that at least.
Speaker 1 00:05:15 So in this moment where the back to our more usual reality, habitual illusory, but habitual material reality on this planet, we are destroying the joy of that reality. We are depriving many sensitive beings of the enjoyment of it by hogging up too much, some of us and not sharing with others. And by, by fearing that it isn't a really brilliant, beautiful, perfectly designed. We are within a cosmic intelligence, actually, creationists are not that bad. They're better than the nihilistic scientists in a way, because except if they insist that it's a one being that they know the name of, and it's their personal guy, and it's like a white guy or something kind of crazy, or a Muslim guy or a Hindu guy or a Buddhist guy or whatever, you know, or a woman or such and such a woman, you know, if they, if they insist on that, then that's bad.
Speaker 1 00:06:17 But the creationism being, if you just take out of creationism, the idea that there is a loving intelligence in everything, it's not the creator of it. It's just as much owned by anyone who receives the love as who gives the love because everyone really is made of this. But that aspect creationism that insists that it's not just istic, arbitrary, random, nonsense, everything. That's really nothing, not just nonsense, but non anything, which is the nearest view and the nearest view then of the sci warp, which is a dogma that the scientists have, that the real thing is nothing Andre or for anything that seems to be something is just has no business doing so. And therefore they it's automatically harmful the reality cuz you hate because everybody is not in the natural coincidence of the sleep of nothingness that they expect to go to by dying.
Speaker 1 00:07:15 And in a way they can grant to somebody like a materialist dictator or king or general or soldier by killing them. So you can bless them by killing them. Cause then there'll just be nothing. And they won't feel pain. That's insanity of theistic thing that the scientists are captured by, based on the dogma, that it's all really nothing. They would, they are making just projecting in their mind because they should know from the meaning of the word that nothing is nothing and isn't there. So no one's going there. No one came from there and it is not what is here. Everything that is here is something and since it can fit with each other and it can, we can thrive on this planet. The planet is an entity that wants to feed us all and can feed limit with beings.
Speaker 1 00:08:07 Its goodness is dominated. Not badness clear night of the void is love and goodness, yes, there's a void, but that's void of freedom. That's a void of relativity. That's a void of inter relating as the good not to, to see an absolute for yourself, not catering to the delusion of being an absolute yourself and expecting everything to cater to you. So this is anyway, what it is, this is the joy of it and the beauty of it. And within this joy we have at this crunch point where we wrongly thought that industrialization exploitation of the bodies of our dead dinosaurs, which are our own previous lives. If we burn them all, we turn the whole planet into a giant crematorium and where we are gonna join with them and burn ourselves. And based on the delusive idea, that's the real root of it is our delusion and our failure to understand the reality of it, that there is no death, there's the clearing way of old structures so that new ones can thrive.
Speaker 1 00:09:21 Yes, but that's just a wonderful transformation. It's never going into nothingness. It's not running away hiding in heaven either. Either it's sudo can visit them. Heaven, have a vacation in them and then be present here lovingly to those who need your help. That's the way. And we can do that. We have, this is a beautiful planet that is folded in loving intelligence, not created by it, folded in it, but it's only created by it in the sense of we are creating it too. So the creative authority goes to all of us actually. And we have express that authority rightly when we are loving. And when we are, we, when we, we create beauty for others and we enjoy beauty as something that we learn to enjoy to share with others, alright, it's alright to enjoy it. As you share it, enjoy it as a gift to yourself to be giving others.
Speaker 1 00:10:23 So we were then in the, in the, you know, in, in our suicidal worship of death, through industrialization excesses, we got to where we were tempted, but we have been tempted again and again. In the early part of the previous century, we were tempted by dictators to seek projecting from our foolish religious dogmas of an absolute absolute authority in the universe to put an absolute authority over ourselves, to actually beat us up. And so actually to escape from our daily suffering, which we couldn't bear. So we projected that into this thing. And then, but then some people said, no, that's not it. Power is not it love is it. And they stood up against these dictatorships in these fascists and they, they pushed democracy. Somebody said us for us about freedom and democracy. And we strived and we survived and did it, although to do it, we did it so violently.
Speaker 1 00:11:33 And so hatefully against the bad ones that violent and hateful people became in a way we let them dominate us. So then again, they are still here, even though we passed it. And in the last 20, 30 years, we became confused and complacent in enjoying lives. And we didn't really care about the people we didn't share with and the starving in Africa and everywhere and in Asia and all over the place and the animals that we consumed and destroyed and tortured. And we then thought maybe we need more dictators. And again, they followed us into the century, the CIA and the KGB and the Ang J in the three of the big powers and MI six and whatever the French call it. So the French, they have their nasty dictator types, you know, double oh seven S they have them all the nuclear powers too.
Speaker 1 00:12:37 And they all sort of crystallized in the nuclear power. So we are letting them still run us in the 21st century when we don't need them. And they were, they're using the, the oil of the industrialization and they're letting the, they're letting the poor Arabs and the Muslims and others be imp by their oil dictators in order, rather than enjoying their life and greening their desert and, uh, being beheaded by them. If they seek a little freedom and their women in prison in misery so that they have the rich ones have to run away and find some freer women to enjoy terrible. So we tempted by this, but some of us didn't and the people now showing us freedom, the Ukrainian people, Jack Lance's people talking to Americans, the people kept alive during terrible communist times, Soviet dictatorship, uh, you know, by, at the Ukraine house in New York, the Ukraine hall in New York, 79th and fifth, our brother house, our brother culture house.
Speaker 1 00:13:55 We at Tibet house, it's our brother house. We are trying to keep the Tibetans alive in the world's mind, you know, third, five blocks away or whatever. So I'm speaking to you joyfully at this time, I'm joyful. Cause I've been reading the flower ornament, Sutra, this amazing book coming from the scientific mind of all enlightened beings, truly scientific, not the fake istic science, the dogmatic science, the true open-minded science, the science of mind as well, a matter, the science that is philosophical, the science that, that, that seeks to discover the reality of love as well as of hard surfaces and atoms and subatomic energies.
Speaker 1 00:14:51 I speak to you from this way. It is so wonderful. The Ukrainians are that they have our hearts dedication with the Ukrainians that and our own wonderful Anthony blink and Joe joting, Joe Biden and precious. May you soon be well again, Kamala Harris and all of the people in AOC and Nancy and, and, uh, Chuck and all of the wonderful people who were fighting for democracy and met Romney and McCloskey. And even that one in may who broke from this, these evil people captured by the demons of dictatorship of money, of totalitarianism, of money and oil who are willing to destroy life to have another five minutes of pseudo glory to distract themselves from their inner insecurity and fear and misery <affirmative> who are, who are betraying their grandparents by supporting dictatorship. Even in America, there are grandparents who fought for freedom, who live for freedom. How can that be? How can people crave some sort of ale, dictator who can't even speak as single sentence? Who's so proudly ignorant of everything. How can they do that? The per kind of person who who's comes from a linear said, worship the dictator, their grandparents defeated in Germany, Hitler, how can they be like that? Should they not be ashamed in front of the gravestone of their parents and grandparents that they would run out with Marga hats on, make a gorilla, all powerful Marga?
Speaker 1 00:17:05 How can they do they not feel shame? And are they not put to shame by the brave Ukrainians, not led by some dictator led by a comedian, a person whose life vocation is helping people find humor, laughing, enjoying themselves, releasing inter tensions, which is the great, great craft of comedians. A comedian goes out amongst people who have inter tension and finds the, the levers and the finds, the concepts and the words that that opened them to the inconceivable, their audience and they, and the, the way they open is by quaking and trembling their rigidity. And they laugh and they feel an inner release. It's like a little bit of an orgasm to laugh. <laugh> releases. It releases inner stress, the stomach ulcers indigestion. It makes a microbiome jump up and down happily. And you're intestine laughter great profession. The comedian is the greatest thing. Really great.
Speaker 1 00:18:20 And they are standing up for this freedom against horrible machinery of sure killing. And they only remotely sh shot at their houses by things. And then people who are completely diluted and crazed who didn't want to go in the first place, but then become crazed and diluted. Being there caught between by their own dictator, pushed into being vicious and violent and committing atrocities. And these brave folks standing against them, even though a grandmother give a gun, let me stop them. You know, just to show that they will, that freedom is a higher value than power than fake money than cryptography, than robbing people than depressing them than killing them. Freedom because freedom needs to love. Freedom needs to of creativity, leads to beauty. There's no state of freedom out someplace in the lying, in a tub. It's not being nothing. The other wrong ones. Think it's freedom is just to kill people for they be free, cuz they're dead cuz they are nothing that's nihilism combined with religious fanaticism is the most dangerous thing.
Speaker 1 00:19:40 And they, and the one that harms the most other people grip and trapped by it. Come on. This is the way to save. The planet is realized. There is no nothing. Rex Tillison will not be nothing after con insisting on lying to people and destroying their atmosphere. Joe mentioned will not be nothing after continuing the oppression of the people in West Virginia refusing to give them help, restore their environment, restore their mountains, their forest, clean their lungs, build beautiful spas and healing centers for them, get them off their addiction and their despair and their misery and their shit jobs that he's happy to have them perform for him. Graveling in the ground in the midst of a bunch of black Torish lung infecting chemicals. He, he, he will not find peace in nothingness when he dies, which will not be when it happens. It will be as if it was a minute from now, it will not be, let it be a long time because let him revise his confusion and, and help jolting Joe stack up of freedom. Come on. What is the point?
Speaker 1 00:21:06 It's a dead end and is no dead end. <laugh> there's no end. There will open you to receiving the consequences of your bad harmful behavior, which you will not enjoy. So start enjoying now and do what will you will feel joy about, which was what will make other people joyful. Imagine the joy of all the people of West Virginia, if you told them the truth, if you found for them, the means to restore their lives, clear their air, clear their water, clean their tr their trees, their Bush, their agriculture, their diets, give them what they need to live well in that beautiful land of those mountain of the blue Ridge mountains that you live in that joyful land. Let them invite back some Indians who will teach them more about how to live on that land. And some immigrant immigrants, let them invite them there. Stop pretending that they should be afraid of <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:22:32 So, you know, there is a young man, well maybe he wasn't that young Bruce was his name. He was in a climate or echo Dharma place. He was sort of a Buddhist, sort of a Christian. He, he, he didn't forget real Jesus. And you, you evangelicals, you say you're evangelicals and you want Jesus above all. And Jesus is love and everyone should stand up for Jesus. Yes they should. Because he, Jesus was love. Jesus. Doesn't tell you to vote for dictators. Jesus. Doesn't tell you to kill the unbelievers. He never said that. Jesus told you love your enemy. As you watch and love God and love your love, your enemy. As much as yourself, love those who don't agree with your belief. That means give them your shirt. What is this? You hate immigrants. What is this? You wanna vote for people who wanna harm people?
Speaker 1 00:23:35 How can you say you're a follower of Jesus when you behave like that, Jesus will deny you. He told you in, in Matthew's thing, he said, people will come to me and say, I did some power. They could have been speaking with a Texas accent in your name. Oh Lord, let me into heaven. No, he said you, I get the golden evil doer. He said that, read your Matthew, read your own scripture. Get Theone. I know he not. He will say, I don't care you out in Jesus. Jesus. When you were harmful to people, you didn't love your enemy. What is this crazy Duggan alien pumping up crazy nihilistic Putin to kill everybody so that Russia can be the divine Jesus empire of Eurasia. That is ridiculous. Jesus doesn't want to kill everybody. Precisely. He, he let them kill him to show that he wasn't afraid of death to show there his eternal life and wanting to live it.
Speaker 1 00:24:40 Well, he let them see that they get nowhere killing people. So how can you kill people in his name? You Russians, why don't you read told story. Tulsa wrote the law of love and the law of life. He re he wrote war in peace to show the futility of war he did. How can you tolerate a government that does that? You can let you can happily die to protest and prevent such a government, grow their unarmed. Let them beat you up until the police. Forget arms, get tired. And they, they run into their own grandmother and they will finally not beat them up. And they will not Abey that order. They will not. And then you don't even hate the guy. You're not gonna string him up like down like miscellaneous and everything because you don't hate him. You feel sorry for the, as the nine people who giving them vicious orders, who are diluted, you feel sorry for the bad arch patriarch who pretends to, as Soto said, the little girl in that book, she scolded the patriarch who blessed the vicious troops going out to kill. People said, that's not what Jesus wants. You can't bless the onward. Christians, soldier that's against Jesus. Jesus wants peace. He doesn't want crusades. This is wrong. It's against Jesus teaching.
Speaker 1 00:26:16 We don't hate you. Exxon Mobil, tobacco companies, oil companies, pharmaceutical companies, poison drug, addicting, drug smugglers, fentanyl producers. We don't, but we are gonna stop you doing your bad things out of love. And once you're stopped, then you can attend a new school and learn to trust your own. Grandmother's common sense. Find it in yourself because you have it. You have it. You don't want to die. You don't want those. You love to die. You know, you, you, you don't, therefore you don't, you love every, you can't love everybody and you don't need anybody. You can work it out. You don't like this. And that thing, you can discuss it with them. They will be a compromise. Nobody dies. This homeless dilemma has been telling you world leaders, this for four or five decades now, pro Francis is telling you this. He's telling who oil people, your climate criminals stocks that cut it out. Just turn all of it off. Put your capital to work, making renewables right away. Yes. There might be some D dirty money. Yeah. You have to have maybe a gas driven bulldozer for a while.
Speaker 1 00:27:45 You know, let not eat long Musk. Get all go to his head. That he's the only intelligent one who makes a decent electric industry. You all to do it. You can do it. You have the intelligence to do it. You have lots of people. You pay them good money. They'll do it. Pay the politicians, good money. They will make the right choices. They, they, they should not have to spend one minute fundraising, not one minute fundraising, you know, impeach the judges who say that money is free. Speech impeach them. They are irrational who say that a corporation is an individual human that's irrational, impeach. They should be impeach for irrationality. Cause they're supposed to make rational decisions and judgements. Put judges who are rational and retire the others with good pensions to study logic.
Speaker 1 00:28:46 None punish them, just retire them. Media people, no lying on the media, no license to lie. No that's not free. Speech lying is lying. You have a responsibility you're allowed access to people's minds. It is your responsibility to tell the truth. You cannot officially, and you cannot take injections yourself to be immune to diseases, and then lie on television. That nobody should take that injection in order to accomplish some political aim and make somebody else and lie and say somebody else causing you harm when actually you are harming them by lying. There's not. That is not allowed. That democracy says no. The will of the people is to be told, to be informed of the truth about whatever it is, as best as people see it and know it. Sometimes people will be mistaken. You can't punish them for that because if they're open to truth, they will look for correction. But for conscious lying, no, that is not allowed. You lose your license for that. You need a license to be on the media and talk to people. That's like Walter CRO. I did. That's the way it is. There's a CBS, you know, have a good day.
Speaker 1 00:30:11 He still did try to tell some truth. And many people do. You know, CNN is trying CNN in between some parts of NBC. Do they do? They don't give a platform to liars? No, the guy who did that was busted, cuz he was uh, doing sex thing. He should have been busted for giving billions of dollars of time, air, time to liars. And now they should all be forced to give free time to people, to so the people can evaluate what they have to say or candidates. They don't need to raise money for that. They have free time because the government, the people give those people who broadcast the airwaves to do the broadcasting or we give them that we give them access to our minds. Therefore they have responsible to us. Therefore they give our candidates of who people to give us a good choice of who should be a sensible person, kind, the person, intelligent person to lead us, not some, a egomaniac. And we can tell if we see them in an unvarnished way on free time equally, we'll pick the less objectionable we'll pick the comedian, the one who, who is attentive to what the audience feels and will see the humor and things. And it doesn't take themselves so seriously. They're not a crazy egomaniac. My mother was very happy. She felt that television helped get rid eventually of McCarthy in the fifties, for example, she was an actress. She loved theater. She, she had faith in that because people saw what kind of person he was by exposure.
Speaker 1 00:31:48 But he wasn't given like glossed up. You televised. And people pretend that he's so great to deceive people. No, he was seen in a context where he was having to do interrogation and they could see his cruelty and his harshness and his fakeness of his reasoning. And so on his bullying of people, nobody likes the bully. And since he was in a real thing, they saw him, they didn't see him in a fake thing, acting like I'm so great telling people lies and not fact checked by a fact checker somewhere else that nobody ever sees right in front. If he lies in front, he's caught right on line. Somebody's right there for those candidates. So that's a lie. That's not true. Say right away. So then they won't dare lie. Anyway, this still, we have to be sensible. Now we have to be, we have to follow jolting.
Speaker 1 00:32:38 Jolting. Joe himself did a lot of wrong things. Three strikes. You were out, you know, put up too many people, race chosen and oppressed people in jail for no good reason. You didn't clean up the system, you know, gave the banks too much interest catered to the wall streets. You know, indulged in fake adventures, militarily, you know, got like he's sort of nice guy wanted to get along with people. So got along with bad types. But now he is the one who was sticking up our ideals. This is his strength. This is keeping him alive. People think he's weak, but he's not because he's empowered by the love of freedom. And by the wish in his elder age to correct what he did wrong and break. That's why you have to realize he showed great strength by pulling out of Afghanistan. Even though he didn't make the bad deal, which which, and he didn't misinformed himself, that they would, they would have time to get people out because the, the, the president and the military supported by us would hold out for six months or, or to a year.
Speaker 1 00:33:52 He didn't give, get that, give himself that bad information. But he, when he saw it was going bad, he knew it was, you had to get out because it was, it should have been done. Should never have occupied that country. Actually, it was a big mistake from the beginning, had a right to go and go after the Al-Qaeda in that country because they attacked us. But to just then occupy, it was completely wrong. Practically and moral, all cannot attack someone who didn't attack you. The government of that country didn't attack us. Some other person did. And then the, the, the government that tolerated, that person were tolerating. So you had to go in and get that person out of there. And they were groups in that country that supported us to do it, but then leave them to shovel it up. Not land there on occupy.
Speaker 1 00:34:43 That's what, even our own special ops troops told me. They told the government at the ch the Cheney government at that time. And they, they didn't listen. So he showed strength because any normal baboon like egomaniac president would, would throw in, again, another bunch of troops, you us to save their face. When things started to go south there, they would, then they were, oh, I'm strong. You know, they could have like postured that they were strong, but he just, okay, it's a wrong way of getting out, but it's out. And we, we, they have to sort it out and this is gonna be awful, but we're going out. And now we've gotta get many people as we can out and pressure the, the crazies to not take too much vengeance.
Speaker 1 00:35:36 So come on, great job. A lot of money, a lot of more jobs in the last year and a half than those lying people created for you in 20 years, more jobs in one year. How can you turn your back on that Maga? Ridiculous. If you're wearing Maga for the wrong people, the gorilla make a gorilla or powerful is what MAVA means. Make a gorilla more powerful, foolish who will only harm you make jolting Joe more powerful. Yes. Show the lie. You're not gonna follow their lie. Their big lie technique. That's a Hitler technique that big lie comes from GOs. Hitler's propaganda minister. Are you gonna really be like the people, your grandparents died to save us from really?
Speaker 1 00:36:42 How can you be like that? Oh yeah, this guy, what? I just want really what I wanted to celebrate today. And also lament is Bruce. Bruce walked in front of the irrational Supreme court and burned himself to death not long ago. And nobody's, everybody's acting like it didn't happen. It's hardly visible in the media. This is someone who burned himself to death. On the basis of we have to do something emergency about the climate. He was listening tore to course, he would never tell him to burn himself to death. It's like, you never, if he'd asked me, oh, it would be a good Buddhist thing, cetera, cetera, to burn, to burn my body. Cuz actually it's not really himself because his self all goes on beyond the body, but it's his body and it's a precious human body and an intelligent one. And from what I've the little bit that is available to know about this guy, he was a kind and nice person, little wacky, but kind and nice, obviously big wacky to give up his body when maybe he wasn't quite sure about a book of the dead of future life or going to Jesus or whatever.
Speaker 1 00:37:52 Jesus would love that guy though, because he gave everything to try to wake people up. But they're so stuck. Like the media who gets a lot of advertising money from the oil companies, didn't want to show that a reasonably saying human being maybe a little wacky, but reasonably saying, just as saying to some ass running or around in a huge gas guzzling pickup, truck shooting, shooting immigrants, you know, that's more crazy than this guy. And, and he gave his body just like the B Mon and Vietnam did like hundred and 60 Tibetans have done to, to show the people that controlling other people's bodies is not what you do. You can give up your own body. They're even free of being attached to their own body and willing to undergo a pain like that. To try to shock us into realizing we have to move fast. We have to do it.
Speaker 1 00:38:50 That guy's video of that guy. I don't know if somebody took a video, I don't know where it said should be available if they did have. It's really amazing that video should be should haunt Joe mansion and Kristen cinema and anybody hiding behind them, who wouldn't do the build back better bill to shift quickly out of fossil fuel to meet a target half, you know what, you know, the story you have to all know this fact, he may have known that of all the carbon pollution that is destroying the planet and destroying and already hitting the poor people in Africa and the poor people in India and in everywhere with these horrible floods and droughts and starvation. And I mean on unbelievable, even the Syrian thing really came from a six year drought. So the farmers couldn't grow their food. So then they went to the city and they freaked out the tyrant Asad group, you know, and then they started killing the people.
Speaker 1 00:39:53 Then they, well, it was horrible thing. And then Obama chickened out from protecting them. And then Russians came and completely genocide. They practice in that country, but it started with the climate, with the bar burning the excess oil and the, the, the, the figure by the scientist is calculation about the scientist is of all that amount of carbon in 2020, since 1850, the excess carbon. Okay. That's 170 years of industrial pollution of turning the planet into a crematorium gradually with some benefits along the way, but ending up destroying everything half of it was put on since 2020 <affirmative>. I mean, since the year 2000, in other words, in 20 years. So in 20 years by the oil industry, the, the military petroleum industrial complex, it's not just a military industrial complex, it's a military petroleum industrial complex that complex put as much pollutant doubled the pollution truly doubled down.
Speaker 1 00:41:09 They stole the election from Al gore in Florida. They then had oil war, started oil wars all over the place. But especially in the middle east, destroyed the middle east, the balance in the middle east. They, and they burnt huge oil everywhere. And they, and the, and the Obama in the re you know, blocked them a bit Obama and Biden himself blocked them a little bit for eight years of those 20, but didn't block the oil thing at all. And the military budget, not at all, they couldn't, they weren't strong enough to do it. They, they just called the kind of, they would've been more than double probably if they, if they had elected their own people, the military petroleum industrial complex. So it is really an emergency. It has been an emergency for 30 years, but now it's the emergency of emergencies. So that guy feeling that expressed it by giving up his body in a painful manner, but in a, not a very effectively PR wise or communicating wise, I don't see, I haven't seen a video.
Speaker 1 00:42:18 It didn't get the media there to shock us that we must act dramatically and drastically. We're coming up to an election where the mansion cinema blocking for the Petro OUM military during this time of claiming that 3.5 trillion over 10 years, that's only 350 billion a year, but they all kept saying 3.5 trillion, 3.5 trillion to scare you. They never mentioned the only 780 billion military budget. But if you owe kept mentioning that as the 10 year budget, that that would be 7.8 trillion. And that wasn't even discussed that just signed out everybody wash, and they just lost a bunch of wars. Why are they rewarded with 7.8 trillion? And, and then the, the Republicans, you know, during the Chainey era and during the Trump era, they made orders that the military couldn't make, uh, non fossil fuel planes and trains and buses. They, they do lovely have nuclear summaries, clean nuclear could clean small submarines, but they don't allow them to prepare for climate catastrophe.
Speaker 1 00:43:37 And they, I, I don't think Biden and just Obama were able to change that they were too weak. They couldn't control the Supreme court. They couldn't control things. They did. They good. They tried, they were chicken ish a little bit, and they wouldn't real. They didn't realize at that time, the emergency that Biden has now realized, and we're looking at that emergency. They, if they take back either house, they can't take back the presidency. Luckily, except maybe by, by a hit squad. But they, they can take back that if they keep being confused. And if you people don't wave wise up, that's what the guy who emulated himself was saying, I shouldn't say like that in the Tibet language, you say emulated the body, the guy who emulate his human body, who departed this life to a better one by having done such a Supreme gift, since he didn't do it out of hatred, I hope to anybody, no, nobody hates the oil people. Nobody hates the dictators, even, even the killers. We don't hate the ego maniacs. We, you know, we have clinics for them, the NA malignant narcissists, we have clinics, but we don't put, give them power hour over us to rule our lives because they all very harmful to us harm as well as to themselves.
Speaker 1 00:45:01 So I wanted to celebrate him. I wanted to publicize him, please look it up on, on PBS news site. They never mentioned it in the news, but it's on the website. And maybe some other places, maybe my friend will give you the link. You have to look at that and think about it, cuz he wasn't a complete CCO. He was a little wacky, but there are more people going shooting. People are, they're doing three times a day, every day, all over this country with the crazed thing with the guns. Oh no, we can't stop their guns. We really, we really can't. It just, it's a matter of a vote among sane people, but paid people who are not, who are lying to us by not serving our interests, which they're supposed to do in a democracy. Cause they're paid by special interests who are harmful to us not to, to protect us.
Speaker 1 00:45:54 They can't pass. Oh no, they can't control those gun companies make them liable for the misuse of their weapons and therefore much more careful about their distribution. No they can't cuz they're their employees. They're not our employees. They took our job and in, they intruded in our democratic government and we have to vote them out. Cuz we have to, we have to, we and oh, saving someone against an abortion, oh, saving, make them jump for Jesus or this or that. Just shout something and do nasty things and destroy us. Stop being fooled by, by uh, you know, wedge issues. What politicians call wedge issues. Something gets you emotion going, stop being fool. By letting them make you feel outraged about something less relevant thing. Everything is relevant. We're not arguing specific issues. There could be better options than some of the things that are, that are done. Nobody's agreeing with everybody were saying use where's your common sense to be fooled by a wedge issue, to vote in someone who's gonna wreck your life, send your job to China, take away your money tax you and not tax the billionaire. Who, who, why? Because you're voting for someone who pretends, they're gonna fix a wedge issue for you, who you should know. If you look a little bit their record, they're gonna take away your livelihood. What's the matter with you.
Speaker 1 00:47:28 Why can't you think straight?
Speaker 4 00:47:33 I don't know what you mean by why can't
Speaker 1 00:47:34 You think so? And even if my watch, he says, I don't know what you mean by why can't you think straight <laugh> he he's channeling confused people. Thank you. It's so cute. I love, I love him. He talks to me. Okay, listen, that's it. That's my podcast today. I've done dedicate the merit to everyone becoming more sensible, using their good sense and voting for what they, what makes sense. Not some crazy lies and, and realize the big light technique is a lie. That is so out outrageously preposterous. That is sort of lures you into thinking, oh well, because it's too preposterous for anybody to say it, unless it was true. That's the trick of the big lie. What, what Hitler called the big lie and the big lie that Trump won the election. The big lie that some, you know, Hillary Clinton eating babies in the seller of a pizza hut, the big lie of all this, not nonsense that the, that the, that the vaccination against the virus is gonna kill you or something. Those are big lies and you have to use your common sense. And especially if the liar themselves are in Jackson are inoculate. <laugh> why should you believe them? That it'll be harmful to you and liars? They're sitting there inoculate in their Fox news, lie, lie, business, live factory. And just telling you to do something that's harmful to you all the best and uh, uh, be happy. Be calm to learn anybody, make you mad about anything. You know, even there's some crazy things going on, don't be mad about them.
Speaker 1 00:49:35 Just be calm and then your good sense will emerge. That's my message. Okay. To those of you who don't agree with me, believe what you want, but calm down the people who try to make you mad all the time, press the outrage button from Facebook, from Twitter, wherever it is to outrage people, no be calm, vote for the calm people vote for the people who are being democratic, who are trying to help you put some money in your pocket, give you a good, decent job, not a slave job, clean up your air, clean up your water, make the billionaire sitting on top of your head, pay taxes to support you. It's an emergency. We have to do that. Give you a nice quiet car that doesn't pollute the, the atmosphere, which would be cheap and reasonable. Okay. All the best.
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